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At least the 'Wise Monkey' got it right.
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http://www.telegraph....key-cartoon-case.html
/// Amongst the 15-strong committee criticised was one black man, who called the image “insulting”. The chairman of the union’s National Black Members Committee went further, saying it was “offensive and racist”. ///
After a four-and-a-half year legal battle, costing £100,000, it has been pronounced, 'not racist'.
At last a victory for common sense, don't you think?
/// Amongst the 15-strong committee criticised was one black man, who called the image “insulting”. The chairman of the union’s National Black Members Committee went further, saying it was “offensive and racist”. ///
After a four-and-a-half year legal battle, costing £100,000, it has been pronounced, 'not racist'.
At last a victory for common sense, don't you think?
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Absolutely ridiculous that this even went to court in the first place.
I find them and their behaviour offensive.
I imagine theyll want all pictures and references to monkeys banned as being offensive to them.
"chairman of the union’s National Black Members Committee"
i take it theres a chair for the White members.
I find them and their behaviour offensive.
I imagine theyll want all pictures and references to monkeys banned as being offensive to them.
"chairman of the union’s National Black Members Committee"
i take it theres a chair for the White members.
"At the 2007 conference another official was criticised after remarking about seeing a “sea of orange” in reference to a display of voting cards. He explained that the comment was not a reference to the politics of Northern Ireland."
what on earth is going on in this country, these people want to control what we think as well as what we say.
what on earth is going on in this country, these people want to control what we think as well as what we say.
exdc
Yes you are quite right, or perhaps not, it is the Telegraph who have printed conflicting amounts.
/// The leaflet produced by four disgruntled ex-officials from Unison: after four and a half years and £100,000 it has been pronounced 'not racist' ///
/// Now, after a four-and-a-half year legal battle costing up to £200,000, the matter has been settled, after an Employment Appeal Tribunal ruled in favour of the four and criticised the union’s reaction. ///
Yes you are quite right, or perhaps not, it is the Telegraph who have printed conflicting amounts.
/// The leaflet produced by four disgruntled ex-officials from Unison: after four and a half years and £100,000 it has been pronounced 'not racist' ///
/// Now, after a four-and-a-half year legal battle costing up to £200,000, the matter has been settled, after an Employment Appeal Tribunal ruled in favour of the four and criticised the union’s reaction. ///
Well let's consider what might be racist.
The portrayal of black people as monkeys and therefore less evolved is the key element of racism.
We've had footballers taunted with "monkey guestures".
So the question is does the cartoon make that comparison?
Well it certainly doesn't look as if it does and the court agreed.
But consider this had the comittee consisted of just three people and had they all been black it might very well have been considered racist.
Context is everything
Common sense is just a fantasy of people who think the world should all think like they do
The portrayal of black people as monkeys and therefore less evolved is the key element of racism.
We've had footballers taunted with "monkey guestures".
So the question is does the cartoon make that comparison?
Well it certainly doesn't look as if it does and the court agreed.
But consider this had the comittee consisted of just three people and had they all been black it might very well have been considered racist.
Context is everything
Common sense is just a fantasy of people who think the world should all think like they do
It’s interesting to note your slant on “Common Sense”, jake.
One purveyor of decent reference books defines it thus:
“...sound and prudent judgment based on a simple perception of the situation or facts.”
Compare this with your definition (“...a fantasy of people who think the world should all think like they do) and there’s quite a discrepancy. Occasionally (as in this case) judgements have to be made to resolve issues. Those making those judgements have to consider many things including the law, the facts, the circumstances and the context. A combination of all these considerations often comes down to what many people know as “Common Sense”. Those blessed with it and able to utilise it are not indulging in a fantasy.
One purveyor of decent reference books defines it thus:
“...sound and prudent judgment based on a simple perception of the situation or facts.”
Compare this with your definition (“...a fantasy of people who think the world should all think like they do) and there’s quite a discrepancy. Occasionally (as in this case) judgements have to be made to resolve issues. Those making those judgements have to consider many things including the law, the facts, the circumstances and the context. A combination of all these considerations often comes down to what many people know as “Common Sense”. Those blessed with it and able to utilise it are not indulging in a fantasy.
Yet more information that tends to confirm my view that 'racism' is alive and well . However I think it is now the '' Non white minority'' who start the majority of ''racist'' debates.
Take for example the case reported on AB where a child was asked to sign a statement that they had made a rasist remark at school. All that happened was that the child asked another classmate '' are you brown because you come from Africa ?'' The brown childs mother rasied a complaint to the school that the remark was racist. The remark was not racist but the brown childs mothers reaction was .
Take for example the case reported on AB where a child was asked to sign a statement that they had made a rasist remark at school. All that happened was that the child asked another classmate '' are you brown because you come from Africa ?'' The brown childs mother rasied a complaint to the school that the remark was racist. The remark was not racist but the brown childs mothers reaction was .
when is this crap going to end? are we now going to call Blackpool ( Whitepool in case we offend?
what about the Black Country, shall it be called the Green Country to please?
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"P All hell brakes out, discrimination, court cases, who is taking the pizzz? OK do goodies you can answer.
what about the Black Country, shall it be called the Green Country to please?
Paddy (No problem here)
Taffy ( No problem here)
Jock ( No problem here)
Polls ( No problem here)
"P All hell brakes out, discrimination, court cases, who is taking the pizzz? OK do goodies you can answer.
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