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Here are some of the implications caused by a minority wish.
Why is it never that alterations are never made to fit in with the majority at the expense of the minority?
Here are some of the implications caused by a minority wish.
Why is it never that alterations are never made to fit in with the majority at the expense of the minority?
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For more on marking an answer as the "Best Answer", please visit our FAQ.///I can find no evidence that the majority of people support same-sex marriages.///
Well he's not looking very hard then, is he?
AOG, as you approve of the sentiment
/// The slur ‘homophobic’ is designed, like ‘racist’, to shut down any argument — in other words, to censor debate. ///
try this:
http://www.theanswerb...uestion1104738-2.html
Well he's not looking very hard then, is he?
AOG, as you approve of the sentiment
/// The slur ‘homophobic’ is designed, like ‘racist’, to shut down any argument — in other words, to censor debate. ///
try this:
http://www.theanswerb...uestion1104738-2.html
'homophobic' in this debate is completely accurate,
It describes an irrational fear of homosexuals. From what I have seen in those opposed to gay marriage, the overriding feeling I get is fear...fear of change, fear of what this may mean for their own marriage. Fear of how this will change society.
That's what a phobia is.
And the reason I call this an irrational fear, is because the impact to the majority will literally be invisible.
Tax forms will now say 'Partners' rather than 'Husband and wife'?
The sky will not fall in.
It describes an irrational fear of homosexuals. From what I have seen in those opposed to gay marriage, the overriding feeling I get is fear...fear of change, fear of what this may mean for their own marriage. Fear of how this will change society.
That's what a phobia is.
And the reason I call this an irrational fear, is because the impact to the majority will literally be invisible.
Tax forms will now say 'Partners' rather than 'Husband and wife'?
The sky will not fall in.
i'm not a naysayer, so perhaps this can only be classed as hearsay evidence. but as explained to me by someone rather religious, legalising same-sex marriage (as opposed to civil partnerships) will allegedly force religious institutions to carry out same-sex marriage ceremonies against their strongly held beliefs.
whereas the government have provided an assurance that no religious institution would be forced to act against their will, it was further pointed out that current equality legislation renders such assurances completely worthless.
whereas the government have provided an assurance that no religious institution would be forced to act against their will, it was further pointed out that current equality legislation renders such assurances completely worthless.
<<whereas the government have provided an assurance that no religious institution would be forced to act against their will, it was further pointed out that current equality legislation renders such assurances completely worthless >>
The 'church' is already free to decline holding services for couples for any manner of reasons......
I cannot see *any* couple who would want to plight their troth in a 'church' which had been coerced into conducting the service.
As assurances have already been given, I can only assume that the '...but they MIGHT be forced......' line is simply speculative scaremongering.
The 'church' is already free to decline holding services for couples for any manner of reasons......
I cannot see *any* couple who would want to plight their troth in a 'church' which had been coerced into conducting the service.
As assurances have already been given, I can only assume that the '...but they MIGHT be forced......' line is simply speculative scaremongering.
Mushroom, thanks, but I understand it from the point of view of religious institutions– in fact one Christian on here said recently that the churches are ‘panicking’ – but these people are saying that they, personally, do not agree with it – and I would like to know why they don’t and how they think it will affect their lives.
// the 'church' is already free to decline holding services for couples for any manner of reasons// - true, but none of which (altho' i might be wrong) would be proscribed by law, unlike any reason that might have its basis in discrimination.
//I cannot see *any* couple who would want to plight their troth in a 'church' which had been coerced into conducting the service. //
peter tatchell would - but then, he's just peter tatchell.
//I cannot see *any* couple who would want to plight their troth in a 'church' which had been coerced into conducting the service. //
peter tatchell would - but then, he's just peter tatchell.
The church is all in a tizzy, the moralists are predicting the end of civilsation as we know it - but honestly, why?
If gay couples wish to have a marriage, then the concept of marriage cannot be very strong in the first place if this minor adjustment makes it tremble to its foundations.
Similarly, the church must feel itself on very shaky ground if it is so scared of such a change when society is evolving, as society must.
I fail to see why anyone not directly affected would have an axe to grind.
The only gay person I know of on here (feel free to correct me if you wish) is jack, who has always been the eptimome of sense and reason, and I cannot believe that she is the exception.
From my experience, the predjudice which still infects our culture is at the root of this storm in a teacup. As I have said before, some people resent the notion of people of whom they disapprove, having the same rights to enjoy a ceremony as are bestowed on others, simply by a difference in orientation.
I am married, have been for twenty-five years, I am a husband and I have a wife.
If jack and her partner, and thousands like them, wish to be married, and call each other the Lord-High-Everything-Else, then what affect does that have on me and mine?
Why do people set themselves up as moral guardians in this way? We all share the planet, we all put our knickers on one leg at a time - we have more that unites is than divides is, so why can't the non-involved simply step aside and accept that gay marriage is not the end of the world.
Really, it isn't. Think about it.
If gay couples wish to have a marriage, then the concept of marriage cannot be very strong in the first place if this minor adjustment makes it tremble to its foundations.
Similarly, the church must feel itself on very shaky ground if it is so scared of such a change when society is evolving, as society must.
I fail to see why anyone not directly affected would have an axe to grind.
The only gay person I know of on here (feel free to correct me if you wish) is jack, who has always been the eptimome of sense and reason, and I cannot believe that she is the exception.
From my experience, the predjudice which still infects our culture is at the root of this storm in a teacup. As I have said before, some people resent the notion of people of whom they disapprove, having the same rights to enjoy a ceremony as are bestowed on others, simply by a difference in orientation.
I am married, have been for twenty-five years, I am a husband and I have a wife.
If jack and her partner, and thousands like them, wish to be married, and call each other the Lord-High-Everything-Else, then what affect does that have on me and mine?
Why do people set themselves up as moral guardians in this way? We all share the planet, we all put our knickers on one leg at a time - we have more that unites is than divides is, so why can't the non-involved simply step aside and accept that gay marriage is not the end of the world.
Really, it isn't. Think about it.
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