CCTV are to be used to stop uninsured cars from filling up

[Haggisdj]

http://cars.uk.msn.co...opped-from-refuelling

[Davethedog]

Anything that can be done to stop them is no bad thing.

[tonyav]

Good idea.

[MartinBev58]

I do mainly agree with this.
I think there would have to be some quick way to check if a vehicle is insured.
A few months ago I was stopped by the police as my car was showing uninsured but I had paid the insurance premium 6 weeks before and I was about 4 weeks into the new policy year.
Why it was not showing as insured I do not know but the police phoned through and confirmed it was insured and let me go with a warning that I could be stopped again as it may not be put on the database until the next business day.
As it happened I was about 80 miles from home and I did not need any fuel to get back but if say I needed fuel to get home and I could have not got any I would have not been very pleased.
The police man was surprised I had not shown up on an ANPR camara before because I know I had been followed by at least 2 other motorway patrol cars since my renewal date.

Martin

[bazwillrun]

yeah good idea...shame they dont put so much effort into stopping some other crime as they do with driving.

easy targets

[Seadragon]

This is just silly, a load of innocent people will be inconvenienced by this and those who know they are uninsured will buy the petrol separately.

[VHG]

>>>shame they dont put so much effort into stopping some other crime as they do with driving.

In some areas of the UK 30% of the cars on the road are uninsured.

The chances of an uninsured car being involved in an accident and someone dying is greater than with an insured car.

Also people who do not insure their car often dont have tax or MOT and the cars can be more dangerous.

Uninsured cars are more likely to be driven by people who are involved in other crimes as well (drugs, burglary etc).

So if you cut down on uninsured cars you also reduce the crimes linked to uninsured drivers.

Anyway we all have to pay more to insure our cars to cover for those people who DONT insure their cars, so we would all benefit in the long run.

[rockyracoon]

Get your car well alarmed then as I can see an increase in fuel theft from vehicles. It is a good idea in principle though, but they do need to iron out glitches as per Martinbev.

[Playbill]

Some drivers are already using cloned or false number plates to evade traffic and charging zone cameras. They will possibly do the same for this purpose.

It is about time number plates were only produced and issued by one authority - same as tax discs. Seems like madness to allow thousands of different people to make what is the only real identifier of a vehicle.

[rockyracoon]

I agree Bill.

[Old_Geezer]

On principle I object to being spied on by authorities, but I can see this is an attempt to achieve something vital. Not saying I like it, but if it worked it might be tolerable. But as others point out, there are ways & means around it that the bad guys will have no compunction to using. Eventually it'll probably end up just monitoring us decent citizens.

[d9f1c7]

Brilliant, anything that can stop these lowlives has to be good. I guess it will feed an underground fuel racket but hey one problem at a time.

Martin there is a quick way to tell, that's what they'll be using in the garages.
for every day use: http://www.askmid.com/

Seadragon: where will those that know they are uninsured buy their fuel?

[modeller]

VHG # If 30% of all cars are uninsured and usually driven by criminals # why doesn't the police stop batches of 100 cars and charge 30 drivers at a time. ?

[naomi24]

It's a good idea - but my worry is that the garage staff will bear the brunt of the potential fallout from it. As the link says, they are not law enforcers.

[rov1100]

I wonder how it will cope with the expected 2 million foreign visitors to the country?

[MartinBev58]

H d9f1c7

My car was showing as uninsured on that site when I got home even though it was insured and confirmed over the phone by the insurance company.
I got the impression from the police officer it could only be updated in business hours.

Martin

[vulcan]

we have to display road tax and mot discs, why can't we display an insurance disc as well ?

[jake-the-peg]

This was looked at before 5 or 6 years ago as I recall , not for just uninsured cars but for stolen vehicles and other wanted cars too.

I think there were a couple of problems that stopped it last time.

Firstly as Naomi said you effectively make the garage forecourt staff law enforcement officers and open them to threats and abuse and all sorts of risk - the petrol companies were not keen on this as you might imagine.

They're also going to end up with abandoned vehicles on their forecourts.

I think you have to ask what's in it for the petrol companies - if that can be solved then it might stand a chance of happening this time

[NOX]

So not a good idea, especially for anyone involved in the motor trade- this would seriously bu66er up pretty much my day most says because it will never operate smoothly or accurately in a million years.

[jake-the-peg]

Also a nightmare when you think about the several thousand cloned cars on the road.

Who knows maybe someone's driving about with your numberplate!