Should we hold a fuel demonstration ?

[youngmafbog]

Fuel is now at its highest, even before more tax is to be lumped in. Osbourne seems to have lost the plot so do we need a mass (peaceful) protest to educate the man?

High fuel prices not only affect individuals but more importanly hamper the gorwth that is so desparatley needed

[sunny-dave]

Petrol prices are only a smidge above historic averages (relative to RPI)

All the paranoia and hot air about fuel price is a nonsense - as a proportion of average household disposable income it is actually lower than at many times since 1950.

< I have boring and detailed figures and graphs if anyone really wants them >

[redman41]

Totally agree as everyone suffers when Fuel Prices go up.
It costs more to deliver the Food and other essentials to the Shops and Supermarkets.
Tax the Motorist. Tax the Drinker and Smoker. Tax everything they can think of !!
Do away with Direct Tax all together and bring in Indirect Taxes instead.
Fair Taxation is what we need and not what favours the Wealthiest in our Society.

[weecalf]

i have a brilliant idea to solve it but i dont like it

[vulcan]

All I know is, last week it cost more to fill the fuel tank on my car then it did buying my first motor bike !

[Slapshot]

I suspect something will happen soon, I don't see why Osbourne and his classmates can't see now cutting fuel tax would encourage the economy....especially when cuttting headline tax to 45p will keep more of his banking chums in the country paying tax....Hypocrasy!!

[youngmafbog]

True, fair taxation is required so why have any banding at all afterall the more you earn the more you pay but it is fair. Taxing people a higher rate because they work hard and get on or simply put many hours in is hardly fair but if you drop the bands everyone maons it benefits the wealthy.
I am not sure how indirect taxes would benefit the less well off, surely it needs to be the other way round ?

[rov1100]

Maybe the high price is because of the ban on Iran's oil exports. The US can now produce a lot of its fuel inhouse. No wonder their economy is taking off while ours deteriorates.

[mccfluff]

they've tried to do fuel protests afew times but they keep falling flat

[sandyRoe]

Wouldn't it be good for the environment if high fuel prices reduced the number of drivers on our roads?

[flip_flop]

I'm very selfish when it come to fuel prices, but let's face it, don't we all bend our arguments to suit our circumstances?

Hauliers should have huge tax breaks on fuel - all the time the prices go up, so does the cost of our food.

I do 2000 miles miles a year in my car. Last year I did 1200 miles on my bike, so a total of 3200 miles.

As far as I'm concerned they can put the cost of fuel for private motorists upto a fiver and it wouldn't overly bother me, and then with the vast amount of tax collected they could improve the public transport infrastructure.

Some people may live a long way from where they work. Not my problem, but OK, give them tax breaks as well.

Punish people who use their cars when they don't really need to.

This would, of course, be complicated to administer - but as somebody who recently has had to wade through very complicated tax rules (having recently been taxed too much) this is something we are "good" at so I'm sure HMRC could produce a formula!

[jno]

rov is right, worries over Iran-Israel war is driving up prices. Plus of course the fact that supplies are finite. The more you use, the less there is, so the law of supply and demand will push prices up.

If you want to save on the cost of hauliers carrying food, grow your own or at least eat local produce. Our ancestors managed. But if you think hauliers should have cheaper fuel because all their savings will find their way into *your* pocket...well, good luck with that.

[flip_flop]

Unless you are Tom Good & Barbara Good, pretty much all food we eat is transported by lorry. If they pay more for fuel, at some point they have to pass the cost onto their customers, who in turn pass it onto to us.

This is an undeniable fact.

If we reduce their fuel costs, no supermarket in the world would allow them to maintain their costs.

To suggest otherwise is pure cynicism.

[DTCwordfan]

youngmafbog - you are in for some expensive travel if you wish to protest and probably pretty futile it will be.

We want you to report back on;

(i) your protests to Iran and Israel to get them to cease their bellicose behaviour. Good luck - even the US Diplomats can't achieve that it seems.

(ii) visit each of the major countries in the Far & Near East and tell them to slow down their economies and want to suck up oil demand, namely China and India, but you can also visit Korea, Japan, and Malaysia while you are at it - oh and a side trip to Indonesia to correct their Exploration and Production Oil Industry which has been slowing down alongside their increased demand

(iii) then the easy part, convince the European oil refiners to invest in further upgrading capacity to take an ever increasing heavier barrel of oil.

George Osbourne has done the easy part for you as to the UK which, if you had made this comment this time last week, would have been convince HMRC and the Exchequer to change PRT and encourage drilling west of the Shetlands and elsewhere in UK waters to arrest the declining production.

If you choose to accept these challenges, we look forward to hearing from you, and the Queen will probably give you the dib-dib for services rendered if you are successful.

Congratulations.

[mccfluff]

there need to be more tax breaks for hauliers.
people who drive their kids i mile to school drive me mad, let them walk!

[albaqwerty]

We could demonstrate on this matter and any other which we feel strongly about to no avail. The only time any politican listens is when they want our vote.

[jno]

if you want petrol prices to come down, who do you think should lose out? The oil companies, the government, hauliers, Tesco, consumers?

[mccfluff]

the oil companies and tesco :-)

[albaqwerty]

As the prices are going up, what's the odds that in 20 years time we'll all be driving electric cars/vans/lorries and the electricity will be from wind-farms??
Cut to the chase and charge tax on the wind.

[jno]

would that be, like, everyone but you, fluff?