VAT on Pasties

[rov1100]

Why did the government just restrict the VAT to pasties. Wouldn't the tax be more suitable if put onto fish and chips which are a main cause of obesity.?

[ubasses]

I believe that there ilready vat on them, now any take away hot foods have been included to being it all into line. The hot food counter in supermarkets will have to add vat as well.

[Jonathan-Joe]

Fish and chips are already subject to VAT and have been since VAT was first introduced.

[DTCwordfan]

redundant argument, rov, not like you! VAT already hits your cod, chips and mushies

[rov1100]

Maybe because its usually a cash transaction without a receipt the VAT if levied is transparent.

[craft1948]

lol @ rov.

[DaisyNonna]

Prefer my pasties cold.

[weecalf]

Salt or vinegar Would sir like vat

[DTCwordfan]

the thing is that it is opaque and it needs some clearer definition. VAT Inspectors are not going to sit out side pastie shops, Gregg shops (they do not sell proper pasties as their beef is not chuck or topside), or hot sausages - it works on a "percentage rule."

This was/is a bit of a dogs botox, just as one of several in the Budget, to the demise of what was really on offer, a zero Budget but quite clever for stimulating cutting edge industry, youth new company investment and energy.

GO needed to spend an extra 15 mins to (i) demo how the mechanism of tax integration works on the (wealthier) pensions (ii) how the tax allowance loops are closed up for the wealthy so that they deliver more tax to the HMRC, even allowing for the 5p reduction (iii) the rationale to defer the decision on fuel tax automatic levy increase in August, a Labour legacy, and (iv) a white paper or some form of clarification on this hot food issue rather than trying to define it. There were other issues as well....

[RATTER15]

I remember when they put VAT on a portion of chips, our local chippy got away with it for a while by charging the equivalent price for salt and vinegar with a free portion of chips, no VAT on salt and vinegar. Obviously it didnt last long as it was more of a protest than anything.

[craft1948]

Bloody hell DT........I'm pleased I've never been in a Greggs.

[DTCwordfan]

And yes, I prefer my pasties tepid or cold.

After all, they were wrapped in cloth and taken down our tin mines to be enjoyed tepid - and with fruit at one end........long forgotten down here - interestingly a Bedford equivalent (rectangular in shape) has both meat and fruit.

And Greggs do not qualify as pasties - no chuck or topside beef in them.

[DaisyNonna]

By the time one has bought something hot in a supermarket, queued to pay, waited for a bus then walked home the something is cold. Whoop de doo! VAT? Complete and absolute cojones.

[DTCwordfan]

what's a cojone?

[DTCwordfan]

Oh, a Rocky Mountain Oyster - are they VATable if cooked?

[craft1948]

A cojone is another name for a Gregg's pasty.................

[DTCwordfan]

probably correct there though I suspect a proper ball has a higher meat and cream content

[EDDIE51]

As has been said it is just to close a loop hole. If a fish and chip shop sells a hot pasty it has to include VAT but supermarkets got away with it, now it is equal. I imagine it applies to the hot roast chickens the supermarkets sell as well but no one seems to have mentioned that.

[DaisyNonna]

Rov, eating fish and chips too often may be a cause of obesity. So why penalise someone who buys them once a week or once a month? Last bought them 3 months ago and they were delicious.

[starone]

I'm going to make my own. That'll show 'em.