U-Turns, Climb downs, rethinks and the coalition Government

[Gromit]

Margaret Thatcher famously said "the Lady is not for turning" yet her refusal to change the poll tax led to her downfall.

Earlier this week the Government did a u-Turn on the pasty Tax and have today announce a u-Turn on charity donations.

Do you think it is good the Government can change its mind after introducing a policy, or do you think it shows lack of conviction and bottle?

For the record, here is a long list of this Government's u-turns.

http://www.telegraph....ns-and-row-backs.html

[Johnysid]

Quizmonster, there is no comparison between 1964 and 2010. We are now trillions in debt. Almost 33% of national debt in 2010 was due to government borrowing before the banking crisis and the £1.13 TRILLION public pension black hole was Labour's baby (in 1997 it was obvious something had to be done about pensions). The pension liability is not included in most national debt figures. See http://pol-check.blog...-first-world-war.html

[ladybirder]

Ludwig is spot on [i] It's a coalition. Trying to keep everyone on board and avoiding back/front revolts means there'll be a bigger tendency for compromise, u-turn, and watering downs. It's inevitable. [i]

And for the record, I agreed with the Poll Tax as well. It was fairer.

[d9f1c7]

jno, gromit was saying that the pie tax thing was not in the manifesto, that's what I'm talking about.

[Gromit]

d9

It was you who mentioned the manifesto when you wrote
// personally I'd not want any government that stuck to it's manifesto regardless of changes in curcumstance. //

I was merely pointing out that it wasn't in the manifesto. These were in the budget which is a 12 month plan.

[cathfromsaron]

so basically, these U turns mean that the cuts will have to cut deeper now that they are raising less revenue from the caravan and pasty taxes!

how does that help us?

[Quizmonster]

Johnysid, there is EVERY comparison between 1964 and 2010, when one is considering the relative politeness of the contents of written notes, which is what I was doing!
Of course, I was also intent on tryng to make the usual Tory "suspects" realise that such messages are not merely the action of Labour ministers. Mind you, I've made this very point more than once here in the past, but some of the same people STILL go on raising the matter, so the message has clearly not yet penetrated. Will it ever, one wonders?

[d9f1c7]

you mean the vat on pies was specifically mentioned in the budget? The finance of the realm has a pie section? Forget the main finance issues let's get the 2 bob pie tax sorted! Never has so much bollux been spoken about something so irrelevant!

[emmie]

d9, most of it's bollux as you say, but quite honestly when all is said and done i would rather we had a government that changes it's mind, than push something through that is clearly wrong and unworkable. The coalition partnership clearly doesn't work, they are not singing from the same hymn sheet
Gromit, not Labour then, a Morning star reader, so a Trot.

[TWR]

Miday news today, the UK's export's down to rising cost''s costs, will take approx 3 years to recoupe, well done D.C. & the puppet.