Was this gross abuse of Barack Obama's Presidential powers?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.guardian.c...undocumented-migrants

[friedgreentomato]

I don't see how - perhaps you could explain how it is a 'gross abuse' please.

[Brenden]

I think he has bypassed congress on this issue - I stand corrected if wong - there are strings attached ie been in the country for 5 continuous years and have no criminal record, and quite a few more.

[anotheoldgit]

*** I don't see how - perhaps you could explain how it is a 'gross abuse' please.***

/// In one fell swoop – and, as Mr. Drudge points out, without the participation of Congress – the president appears to have shifted major US policy with implications for hundreds of thousands of families, for the economy, for the country's very sense of self. To call it a major power play is not quite to capture the thing. ///

/// About time, some on the left will say. Did anyone believe that Congress would act on the Dream Act (or anything else), when Congress has shown itself willing to drive the country to a brink of a default in the service of the most unhinged rhetoric of imagined fiscal purity? ///

/// Others will call this a gross abuse of presidential power. Does the president have the right to in effect move the nation's borders, unilaterally? If the president can do this, then why have we expended so much energy debating immigration policy? ///

[pdq1]

Sounds very much like an amnesty. If this happened in the UK there would be much opposition to it. Although they don't call it an amnesty here just 'permanent right to remain' and they have been doing this for many years and is the main reason we cannot deport these undesirables.

Also its a well known fact that ambitious parents have been sending their children on a one way ticket to the UK and like fools we do nothing to stop it.

[Brenden]

I have just read (Do not know if it is true) that these migrants will be guaranteed 2 years work - if so, sounds like another case of affirmative action on Obama's part - this will go down well with the unemployed in the USA.

[emmie]

perhaps seeing how it should go through congress unless i am much mistaken. Seeing as how there are these vigilante border controls, many immigrants still slip through. I haven't read the whole piece, but not sure whether this is a sop to the civil liberties brigade. He has an election coming up, so maybe that has something to do with it. Interesting that they can absorb that many in one fell swoop.

[Clanad]

Someone in Obama's campaign headquarters is brilliant... think about it... Obama has lost favor with almost every faction that voted him in... especially the Latinos. In one swell foop, he has probably erased the declining support he had amongst thiat group and the Republicans are going draw nothing but wrath if they come out against it in any strength,

I'm not for it, but it is limited to those children (no grown) that came to the US at age under 2 and have never known any other home. There's (apparently) is no promise of amnesty to the kids parents and no promise of citizenship acceleration... they still have to jump through all the hoops. It's just that they cannot, now, be deported. (No guarantee of jobs, by the way, but now they will be in full frontal competition with all other citizens for any jobs that do come up)... brilliant on somebody's part...

[Brenden]

Clanad, just read another report, as you say not guaranteed 2 years work but 2 year job visa - quite different - brilliant as you say but is it legal?

[emmie]

Brenden, not sure it is legal, but will undoubtedly earn President Obama some kudos. I hoped he would be a breath of fresh air, in a land of presidential nonentities, but for some reason he has failed to light the fire of his early promise. I wonder what all the black people who did see him as a force for change, make of him now.

[Brenden]

He certainly has not live up to expectations, but to choose between him and Romney as next president - well - what a choice.

[emmie]

No brainer, as much as i dislike that expression.

[emmie]

this couldn't have helped either
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Last week's blockbuster report in the Washington Post that Mitt Romney bullied a closeted gay classmate in prep school creates a bit of uncomfortable timing for House Republicans as they consider a reauthorization of the Violence Against Women Act.

[askyourgran]

Waste of time really, how many of these young - undocumented migrants. are on the straight and narrow? I think this a just a vote-catcher, this does not lead to citizenship but a grant to work for 2 years if they are good boys and girls. Just hope Cameron and Clegglet don't hear about this.