Is this man being stamped on?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.guardian.c...tamping?newsfeed=true

The Daily Mail is often accused of occasional being economical with the truth, but on this occasion it seems that the Guardian are over exaggerating so as to get some anti-police message over.

Their headline states YouTube footage 'shows police officer stamping' on man.

I always thought that the definition of 'stamp' was to bring down the foot forcibly.

Unless I have need to visit 'Specsavers' I can only see the Officer kneeling on the chaps head, so as to restrain him while they attached the hand-cuffs.

[emmie]

it's a bit hard to say, but suggest seeing it again, the office is kneeling on his shoulder, head to keep him on the floor whilst presumably arresting him.

[Bazile]

//Unless I have need to visit 'Specsavers' I can only see the Officer kneeling on the chaps head, so as to restrain him while they attached the hand-cuffs. //

Kneeling on the chaps head !!

[ChuckFickens]

Suggest you look at the first couple of seconds again, here it is in slow motion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMLlhb73AL8&feature=plcp

[jake-the-peg]

Did you miss the meaning of the quotation marks in the headline

They indicate a quotation

Specifically that this is not the authors expression but a report of the claim of a third party.

This is clear throughout the article

Nice try though

and no the Police's actions do not look excessive to me - well presuming that it wasn't for a parking offense

I do wonder what "outraging public decency" meant in this case - that does that mean using bad language to the Police.

If so I'd suggest it might be a case of 'Overcharging" by the CPS If he's being charged with posession of drugs and affray adding on a use of bad language would be going over the top

[sir.prize]

Quite obviously the 'alleged stamping' occurred seconds before the clip was started. Crowd comments do suggest that the restraining efforts were OTT - no douibt the police inquiry will investigate and the policeman will continue his job after a chat with his superiors.

[emmie]

why was it necessary to arrest him if that is what they were doing in the first place. having seen a bloke take out 6 officers, he was off his head on drugs, it was necessary to use quite a lot of force. they do a dangerous job, getting more dangerous as time goes on.

[anotheoldgit]

ChuckFickehns

/// Suggest you look at the first couple of seconds again, here it is in slow motion. ///

No not at all convincing, all it shows is a police offices going down from a standing position to a kneeling position in slow motion.

[chaptazbru]

^ Agree.

[emmie]

also agree, i watched that any number of times and still can't see it.

[anotheoldgit]

No it was not for a parking offence.

/// Police named the man on Tuesday as Freydoon Baluch, 51, and he appeared in custody at Camberwell Green magistrates' court charged with affray, possession of cannabis, assault on police and outraging public decency. ///

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.brixtonblo...rrest-in-brixton/6489

Another slant on the proceedings, it seems that protestors will march from Lambeth Town Hall to Brixton Police Station to make a formal complaint about the incident captured above.

Let us hope it doesn't conclude in an anniversary party for last August.

[chaptazbru]

Amazing isn't it, this creep is the lowest of the low and yet the police get rammed for doing their job. What are they supposed to do - let him run away cos people will moan when they use force - pathetic !!!!

[Gromit]

No. Can't see a stamping. The man filming/commentating believes something was done but I don't believe the film verifies it. There were other filming so something may turn up one way or another.

Without knowing why he was decked it is hard to say whether the restraining was excessive or not.

[Gromit]

chaptazbru

// this creep is the lowest of the low //

Do you know this man? How can you tell that from him lying on the pavement unconscious? Good job answerbank is anonymous as you may have committed libel.

[sir.prize]

Why would it be necessary for the officer to have his knee on the chest of the 'offender' who, according to a Met spokesman, was unconscious for 20 minutes?

[chaptazbru]

Because the police have named him and said what he'd done.

Committed libel - BOG OFF gromit ............

[emmie]

seeing as we were not there, don't know the full story, it's a bit hard to say what goes on here, but it doesn't look as though the policeman stamped on him, perhaps other footage will show the bigger picture.

[chaptazbru]

pudding

[jno]

there's this funny thing in British law about being innocent until proved guilty, chaptazbru. It's just possible that not every word spoken by the police is gospel truth.