So who do the British Mau Mau victims claim from then?

[Thatcherite]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19843719
Just another compo feast for the lawyers, you couldn't make it up!

[jackthehat]

Then..........nothing.

Reparations and an apology should be sufficient.

[sp1814]

em10

After that - nothing. The problem here is that there is an outstanding injustice. Going back to Germany in WWII - should the Jews have just shrugged their shoulders and forgotten everything?

Justice is justice.

[emmie]

I think that there will more people coming out with these type of claims, and not just from Kenya, but other places where we have had interests, i am choosing my words carefully here. So money is paid, reparation and an apology.
what is to stop others from doing the same, where there is no absolute proof that atrocities were committed. And what about the British who suffered terribly at the hands of the Japanese in WW2, and not just the British of course, but many. The few still alive, left how do they get justice, reparation?

[askyourgran]

The Mau Mau were animals, I remember the news reels during that time of the atrocities they inflicted on the white settlers who were outnumbered. It seems to be a sign of the times, lets dredge up some old fight and see what we can get out of it. How about an apology, just like the Japs did. It's far too late now it was six to one and half a dozen of the other.

[emmie]

Whether one likes it or not, people, governments from around the world have committed atrocities, but as i said just how far back do you wish to go. I am not suggesting they do not deserve an apology, reparation but feel that we will keep on apologising for ever and a day.

[jackthehat]

The Mau Mau victims have persuaded a British Court of Law that they suffered 'unreasonably' at the hands of Agents of the Crown.

Therefore they are deserving of some sort of reparation.

The victims of Japanese wartime atrocities will, unfortunately, never receive any sort of reparation from the Japanese Government.......but that doesn't mean that because of that we have no obligation to answer charges levelled at our own Government.

[emmie]

http://www.dailymail....-terror-suspects.html

[jackthehat]

Exactly.

[emmie]

JTH, exactly what? so if we are at war, or give info to the Americans, and people get hurt, killed are we going to pay compensation each and every time. And how would one garner evidence that we were culpable.

[jackthehat]

If the 'Rules' of war have been disregarded and wholly innocent people have suffered because of it.........and any subsequent inquiry or court case proves our complicity, why should reparations *not* be made?

[LazyGun]

If you have a problem with those victims of torture claiming some financial compensation, recognition and an apology, then I suggest that you take it up with the government responsible for inflicting that torture.

These people are not suing individuals - they are suing a nation state.

Maybe if sufficient people complain, we can convince the government to stop sanctioning illegal and inhumane treatment of others.

[LazyGun]

oh, and save the great british taxpayer a few pence as well, whilst we are at it.. mustn't forget that, must we? That is clearly the most important factor here...

[emmie]

how many innocents have died in all the recent theatres of war, in Syria, Libya, Afghanistan, Iraq, bombed by the Americans, British, or their own sides, how do you know who is culpable. Sorry but there has to be a time, cut off when compensation claims will not be forwarded, after all did the Jews get compensation for the loss of their loved ones, loss of home, hearth
country even, don't think so.

[emmie]

LG, of course you would say that, it's the sort of comment i would expect from certain others on AB, that it's always about money, but it's not always, let's have a bit of perspective here.

[jackthehat]

'Innocents dying in wartime' is an entirely different thing from the matter under discussion...

[LazyGun]

You are perfectly correct that hundreds,thousands of innocent civilians have lost their lives through in the various theatres of war. It seems to me that if any of them could prove that a country had launched an illegal war, then the families and relatives of those killed should be due some recompense, some compensation.

Maybe if such a system was in place, countries might be a little more reticent in opening up new theatres of war. And the cost of waging such wars is positively staggering. Set that against the compensation claims of these victims of torture.

Fact is, these people have shown, in a british court of law, to the satisfaction of a high court judge, that they were tortured - inhumane and dehumanising treatment, totally against the geneva convention, and against all standards of human decency - values we in Britain are supposed to be proud of.

[emmie]

if the people get their compensation and an apology then let that be an end to it, otherwise we will see more of these cases, and no one surely will know if they have a genuine claim or not.

[mazie]

they have nearly 9,000 files on this em.

"Hanslope Archive of some 8,800 secret files, sent back to the UK at the time of independence, has yet to be made public, "

[THECORBYLOON]

fender62 writes,"why should we tax payers pick up the tab for something that happened donkeys years ago"

Guilty folk can be put in prison for crimes they carried out donkey's years ago, what's the difference?

The folk involved in the court case are alive still, they have been the alleged victims of assault, sexual assualt or castration and even if they were awarded damages of one million pounds each, your personal share as a taxpayer would be less than 10p for all three of them.