Is this Jimmy Saville thing getting boring?

[10ClarionSt]

No disrespect to anyone, but isn't this getting boring now? I think the media should leave it now and let the relevant authorities get on with their investigations. But these things sell papers don't they?

[shoota]

The reason I posted the Peel article is because of the acknowledgement by the woman involved that, although she was 'used' for sex by Peel, she in turn 'used' him to access his lifestyle.
I'm sure that this wasn't the case in ALL of the Savile incidents but I recall one woman who was interviewed saying that she was first 'abused' by Savile when she was 14 and he stopped 'abusing' her in her early 20's.
Surely that indicates that she was also 'using' Savile to access his lifestyle?

[emmie]

whilst i agree she seemed to have used him, she was 15 so not a woman but a young girl. Once her parents found out they put a stop to it, sadly she was pregnant by then, and had a termination, which must have been traumatic.

[emmie]

many girls, even grown women stay with abusers, if they feel lonely, neglected, uncared for in the outside world, they will latch on to someone, and usually it's the wrong one because they don't have experience of the world and it's workings. Been in that place so not talking nonsense.

[missprim]

I wouldn't say boring but I do wish they didn't show clips of him every time it's on the news.
Also, I wish they would stop referring to him as 'Sir'. I know he hasn't been stripped of this title but he doesn't deserve to be called it.

[Sqad]

101.....I was in Scarborough in the 70's and Mrs sqad in the 50's and the Club scene at a place called the Futurist was in full swing with young girls (groupies) throwing themselves at the "stars" and middle aged women throwing their knickers on the stage.

This is the scene that you should judge present misdemeanors.

If one starts to dig, then one must be prepared to face and deal appropriately with what one finds.............and if this is the case then other knighted pop stars and others of that ilk may be a little worried at this stage.

I am not condoning the actions......but be prepared to face more accusations against even more notable prestigious "stars".......as may be revealed.

[sp1814]

"The past is a foreign country, they do things differently there" (L.P. Huntley).

I remember a song by Patrick McNee and Honor Blackman called 'Kinky Boots', that contained the lines:

Sweet girls, street girls,
Grumpy little beat girls,
Square girls, cool girls,
Sexy little schoolgirls,
Maiden aunties,
Mayfair debutantes,
They all dig those boots

And let's not forget Barbara Windsor playing a school girl who's bra (hilariously) pinged off in 'Carry On Camping'.

From our enlightened viewpoint, it looks incredibly dodgy, but I suspect these predatory males considered teenagers as 'easy game'.

It shows them up s being a bit pathetic and sad. Can't deal with a fully grown woman as an equal? Well cop off with a teenager.

I'm very saddened that John Peel has been named because I respected him. But in answer to the question posed, we should not get 'bored' by this topic so quickly. If there are others who have been complicit in covering up these allegations, they should be brought to book.

[cathfromsaron]

i'm sorry if you find alleged molestation and rape boring, i personally feel this needs to be discussed.

[sp1814]

Sqad

I totally understand where you're coming from, but surely the fact that these groupies were actively throwing themselves at the stars in question is not irrelevent?

If a girl looks like she could be at school, then she is absolutely off limits.

Just to juxtapose the story - it would not be acceptable for George Michael or Boy George or Graham Norton to have sex with a 15 year old boy just because he was 'available'?

[DTCwordfan]

I think 10Cst gas possibly got their terminology wrong, boring is not the word but tedious - yes it does need to be surfaced and discussed.

Given that JS is gone and his will has been probably executed, there is no financial consideration there - however my view is that the BBC and major hospitals etc involved should be offering to pick the tab up on victim's counselling, in order to help them through their memories and bring some comfort, as well as the PR value of that to the community at large. However, I see that there are some murmurs now of class actions against these institutions - once more the taxpayer is being called on.

[DTCwordfan]

has not gas

[Sqad]

sp..........I agree with your first paragraph and you final paragraph.

\\If a girl looks like she could be at school, then she is absolutely off limits. \\

and hearin lies the problem............girls of 15years of age, made up with cosmetics, dressed provocatively......look well over 15years of age.........and today look even older.

my point being if you keep digging then be prepared to deal with what you may find..............even English " treasures.".........perhaps!

[Psybbo]

I've avoided these threads, but I wish these women would have been satisfied with closure, and not got lawyers involved

[sandyRoe]

What could have prompted the authorities to put Savile in a position on a taskforce overseeing Broadmoor?
A lunatic, well, a dodgy chancer, running the asylum.

[sandyRoe]

Sqad, Jimmy Young? Never!

[Mick-Talbot]

Just to juxtapose the story - it would not be acceptable for George Michael or Boy George or Graham Norton to have sex with a 15 year old boy just because he was 'available'?

What about Micheal Jackson?

[Sqad]

sandy........;-)

[EDDIE51]

I said on another 'Saville'post that this was more about the BBC allowing it to go on for so long. The contiuned allergations, now over 350, just make me more certain that the BBC is guilty of at the very minimum 'turning a blind eye' .
I think the 350 is just the tip of the ice berg the real total must be in the 1,000s, this case is just on a diffrent level to anything seen before. We will not hear the last of this for a long time.

[pdq1]

The BBC and prison authorities certainly fixed it for Jim.

[sp1814]

Mick-Talbot

In what way was the alleged Michael Jackson story 'acceptable'?

This is absolutely key - there's this idea that these girls knew what they were getting into...just switch it to a middle aged gay man with a 15 year old boy and suddenly it throws the story into a proper relief.

[Kromovaracun]

""The past is a foreign country, they do things differently there" (L.P. Huntley)"

L.P. Hartley.