US Elections

[AB Editor]

 

This poll is closed.

Who would you vote for in the US presidential election?

• Obama - 169 votes
• 87%
• Romney - 26 votes
• 13%

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Stats until: 10:36 Thu 21st Nov 2024 (Refreshed every 5 minutes)

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[AB Editor]

"Actually, I find Ed's 10.55 comment somewhat offensive."

I'm a little surprised at that!

As you well know (as someone with experience of living in the US ) a minority presidential candidate barely registers as a blip on the radar - and more importantly will be complete nobodies to the majority of members this site.

[dickythecook]

I would vote for Obama, but let's not forget that Mitt Romney owns part or has ties to the company that makes the electronic voting machines and that his Corporate billionaire buddies are busy with voter suppression in the southern states. Almost all the slave states that existed before abolition now have the lowest paid workers in the USA. There are very strong suggestions in these workplaces that a vote for Obama would be unpatriotic if not downright treasonous. Also it is a three party election Ed, where is the third choice? Or has romney got his hands on AB?

[DTCwordfan]

so you recognise that they exist though.......thank you, exactly my point.

[DTCwordfan]

see my last attachment, dicky, for the alternative candidates. It is a massive misconception that there are only two candidates on the race-card.

[Bazile]

Yep - it look like it's going to go down to the wire .

According to the polls - In the key states like Ohio and Florida , Obama has a 4 and 2 % lead respectively , over Romney .
Nationally , Obama leads by 1 % .


Attention remains focused on one battleground state above all others. According to the number crunchers, Mr Romney will find it very difficult to win the 270 votes he needs in the electoral college that decides the victor unless he carries Ohio.

So , it looks like it's going to be one of the closest elections for some years .

Good luck Obama , for a second term

[LoftyLottie]

AOG Hence the ;o) :o)

[Ellipsis]

It's only an AB poll!

Did I hear that Roseanne Barr was also running? [Checks] Yep ...

http://www.roseanneforpresident2012.org/

[anotheoldgit]

DTcrosswordfan

There are some interesting points in this article.

http://www.dailymail....ice-like-America.html

[DTCwordfan]

Paras 3 and 4 are indeed very important issues to Americans......this in a country that has a far, far higher church attendance, especially in the South. Where I lived, we had a Catholic church sitting 900 and, with their demand, they would get through 9 to 11 services on a Sunday, and then the other way there was a Methodist establishment (who couldn't tell whether they were of John or Charles Wesley following, there being a difference in strictness over here). Well that sat 2000 and got through 3 services on Sunday, and packed...... However they achieved separation of church and state who knows, I have an amusing story on that one but that is another story.

[AB Editor]

"so you recognise that they exist though.......thank you, exactly my point."

Definitely! But it's a bit like the poll we did a few weeks ago for the UK: http://www.theanswerb.../Question1176331.html - I had to make a call as to whether to include regional parties (who could not form a Westminster government). Equally with the inclusion of those parties the issue swings to independence immediately, which muddies the waters of a question about the UK gov. Including someone like Gary Johnson can do the same as the discussion turns to the decriminalization of marijuana.

"It is a massive misconception that there are only two candidates on the race-card."

One that holds to be, practically, true though?

I always find that the biggest problem for Europeans looking at the US political system is the bit where we forget the notion of "parties" is a very loose term for them (except briefly during elections!).

[DTCwordfan]

Ed - my points raised prior to 10.55 were meant to be "fact clearing" per se, perhaps a tad pedantic, yes, given the nature and realities of the US system - it was your 10.55 that got my goat up, the pure assumption of the last comment. A brief apology on that slur would have been appreciated but end of matter in my book.

Next time please include Mebyon Kernow in any poll on UK regional independence! (lol).

[Gromit]

The Republicans took the US (and us) into Adghanistan and Iraq. And they grew the deficit and national debt substantially.
Don't want anything similar to that anytime soon.

[DTCwordfan]

//I always find that the biggest problem for Europeans looking at the US political system is the bit where we forget the notion of "parties" is a very loose term for them (except briefly during elections!).//

I think it's more that it is so different than over here.

Allowing for the difference in systems of election in the primaries (basically either by party affiliation or by free vote), the number of signed up members of the two major parties are about 2/3rds of the electoral vote (nationally that's just under 190 million). The numbers do fluctuate as the deadline for registration is (usually) within 30 days of the primary. Also, one can be independent minded and then sign up for one of the majors to vote at the primaries....

Then the final election is, of course, all gloves off and you can vote for who you wish.

[Clanad]

As a U.S. citizen (and a visitor to AB) I see a lot of misinformation posted on this and other sites referencing this election. So much so (it's like an American making a snap judgement on a UK election based on a few newspaper articles) that it's hard to know just where to begin. But, for the sake of brevity can anyone tell me exactly what it is that Obama has accomplished in the preceding 4 years? Aside from the now threadbare excuse of blaming his predecessor, "W", we are in far worse condition in almost every way than when he was elected.

As I've mentioned before... Obama was the least vetted presidential candidate in the history of the U.S. His only real recommendation was his skin color. His election was seen as rinsing the US national guilt over slavery (over 145 years ago) from our collective psyche.

He had a long history of very questionable dealings in Chicago politics, including close associations, later denied, with 1960's radicals, sat under a radical, unaplogetically racist (black) preacher for years and then denied being influenced by him, not to mention clearly questionable association with Tony Rezko and shady financial dealings.

But beyond all that (which came to light after his election) he had no, none, zip, nada experience in any area of national government. His singular claim to fame was as a neighborhood "Community Organizer". Yes, he did have 4 years as a Senator, during which he voted on nearly every thing with "Present". (Here, that's a non-vote but keeps one from having a record to defend.)

(But he did (and does) give a good speech as long as he's not deprived of his telepromtper. His biggest gaffes have been when he adlibs.)

So... we are presently in debt to the tune of 16 Trillion (yes, with a "T") dollars, most of which he accumulated in 4 years. Not one budget has been proposed or passed (significant), his vaunted set-piece of ObamaCare is clearly unworkable and reconized as such by even memebers of his own party. To try and make it more workable, he has reduced spending on a system that was working to help poor and elderly with medical costs (Medicare) by 500 million dollars.

Then there's all the bowing a scraping an apologizing to world leaders while not once in 4 years having visited the Normandy gravesites of U.S. and Allied soldiers... the first president to fail doing that since the monuments were established.

This has been a disaster of historical proportions that will haunt us for decades to come, while the black people (and other poor) are self-admittedly worse off...
and I haven't even mentioned Benghazi...

[jake-the-peg]

not once in 4 years having visited the Normandy gravesites of U.S. and Allied soldiers... the first president to fail doing that since the monuments were established.

My goodness!

Not a President more interested in looking forward than back!

Next thing you know they'll be electing someone who's not a White Anglo Saxon Protestant!

Oh!

[Bazile]

At the end of the day it doesn't matter what us brits think , does it ?.

It will obvioulsy be up to the citizens of the US , who will decide the outcome .
If Obama is returned to the Whitehouse , then obviously a significant amount of people will have taken a differing view to yours , Clanad .

So they will be wrong , and you right ?

[Clanad]

My, my, jtp... consistently missing the point... as usual...

Time will tell, Bazile, time will tell... but if you think this won't affect the UK (and the rest of the world) you need to reconsider after looking at the whole picture...

[Brenden]

Clanad and myself might be proved wrong once the votes are counted, but I have seen nothing that Obama has achieved to warrant him a second term, he is a true radical surrounded by radicals in the White House - makes me wonder whose side he is on.

[jake-the-peg]

Frankly it isn't going to matter what most of the US think

Their system is no better than ours in that if you live in Texas or Chelsea your vote is moot - the seat or state is as safe as they come.

Only a relatively small number of marginal voters have any real say

[humbersloop]

er, so that's a no then clanad? ;-)