Will this be the great gay marriage revolt?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2237617/Camerons-plan-allow-gay-marriage-set-trigger-biggest-Tory-rebellion-modern-times.html

/// Among the 118 is gay MP Conor Burns. He said he ‘marvels’ at why David Cameron is prioritising same-sex marriage when there is no ‘clamour’ for it in the gay community. ///

The 118 Tory MPs who are set to defy Cameron are listed here.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/11/23/article-2237617-162F2A9F000005DC-377_306x1606.jpg

[Jeza]

Yea Gods my father would turn in his grave. If he had one. He was cremated.

[sandyRoe]

Gay marriages, and denying prisoners the right to exercise their franchise, are probably important issues to those involved. But why are they on the top of Cameron's agenda? Has he nothing more important to occupy himself with?

[Jeza]

Why does the theatre, politics and hollywood attract the 'gay' people.

[tonyav]

Dunno Jeza, I think they like being flamboyant.

[deggers316]

Hollywood my friend is very homophobic

[anotheoldgit]

sp1814

/// Oh, and MP Conor Burns is talking cobblers. ///

If one doesn't toe the gay's line on the subject of gay marriages, they are talking 'cobblers', regardless of the fact that, that person also happens to be gay.

That kind of dictatorial thinking only turns people away from supporting the gay lobby.

[jackthehat]

Gay people are allowed to disagree with the views held by other gay people, AOG.

I doubt if either Conor Burns or SP1814 consider themselves to be the definitive 'spokesperson' on this issue.

[bazwillrun]

"SP1814 consider themselves to be the definitive 'spokesperson' on this issue."

he does on every other subject he gets involved with so why not this one ?

[LazyGun]

We have discussed polls, and wisely decided that polls cannot be relied upon, since they are often biased.

What has not been discussed much in this thread at least is exactly why these 118 MPs are revolting?

What is it about the idea of gay marriage, precisely, that these MPs and other like minded individuals find so offensive that they feel impelled to vocally object, or vote against it?

[sp1814]

NJ

Do the things that don't matter first so you have more time to concentrate on things that do

Might not matter to you but...

[modeller]

Is this what Cameron thinks is strong leadership. ?

Lazy gun . #why these 118 MPs are revolting? #
Only 118 ? I think all MPs are revolting .

[New Judge]

"Might not matter to you but... "

Yes, sorry sp, I should have completed it more fully. Let me do so now:


Might not matter to you but ... neither does it to the vast majority of people as there are far more important issues to address which do matter to them. And when time and resources are tight it is morally reprehensible to spend valuable time fannying about with issues that only a small minority are interested in.

[LazyGun]

Since when has politics and legislation been solely been introduced and ranked according to its popularity, or its economic importance? You know better than that NJ. Nor is politics about monovalent decision making - focusing on just one thing at a time to the exclusion of everything else. Even politicians and lawmakers should be capable of some degree of multi-tasking :)

Some legislation might have been bubbling under for some while, and speaks to some basic cultural requirements - and gay marriage fits that bill. So why are these 118 MPs especially revolting?

[sp1814]

AOG

Conor Burns IS talking cobblers, because there is strong support for marriage equality amongst gay people. Polls held in Attitude magazine, Gay Time and on the Pink News site all confirm this.

These are facts that I can back up with stats...so when Conor Burns says that there is little support for marriage equality in the gay community, he's talking cobblers.

[sp1814]

New Judge

I find your argument odd.

Do you think that every department in the UK government is solely fixated on marriage equality?

Or do you think that perhaps, marriage equality is just one of a large number of initiatives that the government is currently working on?

I suspect that the government multitask...it's not like they just deal with one issue at at time.

This is why I find they whole, "Haven't they got more important things to think about".

The economy is our chief concern at the moment...but does that mean that every government department and every MP should be solely fixated on that?

See...odd.

[sp1814]

NJ

Oh and by the way, don't fall into the trap that only a small minority are interested in.

You don't have to be gay to support marriage equality. The figures speak for themselves.