Is it safe to travel by bus in broad daylight?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2243588/Shocking-moment-London-bus-passenger-strangled-scarf-passes-unprovoked-attack.html

Dare I say it again?

What is this......................?

And no it did not happen in my day.

[anotheoldgit]

ChuckFickens

/// Yes, they killed people rather than just rendered them unconscious years ago.///

Good piece of research Chuck, actually a Murder committed years ago on a bus.

Unlike Trigger who just seems to be entering past murders with no connection to buses.

As I have said before anyone would be a complete fool to say there were no murders or near killings years ago.

They just seem more prevalent these days.

[anotheoldgit]

sp1814

/// We watch films on their iPads, listen to music on their mp3 players and read books on their Kindles - all of which prevents us from interacting with our fellow travellers. ///

What do you suggest sp, an in-depth conversation with your fellow passengers or perhaps a few hands of Poker or maybe Bridge if one is in the Kensington area?

[pdq1]

Better to travel on the lower deck obviously where the driver is more aware what's going on and take necessary action.

[emmie]

agree about the rudeness, many passengers plug themselves into the I phone, or whatever trendy music box they happen to have then zone out. Getting on bus is no longer a case of queuing it's every person for themselves. I cannot understand how the able bodied can sit there whilst frail elderly people or disabled passengers have to stand. That is something that gets my goat.

[emmie]

pdq, the drivers take no notice believe me, i pointed out a suspect package left on the bus and he ignored me and the package.

[ladybirder]

pdq - it says in the link it was a single decker - so no help there then from the driver or anyone else, if there was anyone else.

[emmie]

drivers can be as rude as some of the passengers, many don't seem to have the ability to drive properly, throwing everyone around like rag dolls, or stopping so far off the kerb that if it's raining you need a life raft to get there.

[sp1814]

AOG

You're resorting to reductio ad absurdum.

No - I'm certainly not suggesting that busses and tubes should be some kind of mobile social club. I prefer to read a book, listen to music or do the crossword on my daily commute.

I have very little recollection of what public transport was like before the advent of personal entertainment systems because I've been variously wearing Walkmans, mini-disc players and now iPods/iPads since I was a teenager.

[China Doll]

Yes, it's fine. I travel on bus, tube and train frequently in both central and south east london and it's never bothered me. I prefer to sit upstairs on the bus as all public transport can get a bit overcrowded and I dislike giving up my seat.

I'm 34 now, nearly 35 (eek!) and I have never learnt to drive so have always used public transport, people have always read newspapers/books, and in later years had walkmans or some form of entertainment with them. I absolutely do NOT want any interaction with other passengers unless I know you, I'm not interested. I still remember when smoking was allowed upstairs on the buses, then it was allowed at the back of the bus upstairs... then it was gone.

[emmie]

China, now it's t wats on their mobiles, telling everyone their most intimate details, why?

[China Doll]

Because they can and that's personal choice. I don't do it myself but if they want to then fine if they don't mind who else is listening. It makes me laugh more than it winds me up. And also, people have always gossiped on public transport too, I remember I use to get the bus with my dad to primary school and we always sat behind the same two old ladies (goodness knows where they were both going everyday, shopping I think given where they got off), and they used to slate the children in law, how they were brining up their kids and some fairly racist stuff all journey, me and my dad used to giggle at them :c)

[emmie]

thing is it's not one or two but many, yelling details that i have no interest in whatsoever. I could get my mobile phone radio to work and plug into that, but quite honestly i wish i didn't have to.

[Gromit]

I wonder what year a bus passenger was first attacked.

I doubt it was 2012.

I suspect that as long as there have been buses, there have been people on board them misbehaving.

Including in AOGs day.

[emmie]

suspect there is some truth in that, in the old old days, they had a man who walked in front of the omnibus with a flag showing the way, perhaps that was when we had that infamous pea soupers.

[sp1814]

em10

The answer to your dilemma is to deliberately sit near men on public transport.

We are physically unable to chitter chatter on the phone. Our conversations stretch as far as "Yeah...no...running late...see you there".

[anotheoldgit]

/// The answer to your dilemma is to deliberately sit near men on public transport. /// What and take the risk of being garrotted?

[plautus]

I don't see where Christie comes into it. The main tragedy in the Christie case is that a possibly innocent retarded man was wrongly hanged for one of his crimes.

[emmie]

sp, not so i am afraid, i must admit they don't chitter chatter quite as much, but one bloke i sat near to talked so loud into his phone that i wonder we all didn't go deaf. Too many instances like that to believe it won't keep happening. Notices all over the buses to tell people not to do it, keep feet off chairs, no bags on seats, and no litter, do they take any notice, do they hell.

[emmie]

and it's usually men who are drunk on buses, one puked all over the seat, and almost another passenger, lovely.