Have The Coe Cocked It Up?

[DTCwordfan]

Just heard on the BBC News that the CoEngland are to allow gay bishops....

if they remain celibate and renounce their past activities.

Now isn't that an exercise in redundancy, hypocrisy whatever and shows the CoE to be as progressive and in touch as they are with the appointment of female Bishops?

What a cock-up to borrow the expression......

[Psybbo]

You couldn't make it up!

[Zacs-Master]

it's words like 'renounce' which have echoes of Church state control. Do they not realise this?

[Kiki-frog]

I find that very worrying. Enforced celibacy in any kind of priesthood is a bad idea. The Roman Catholic Church's insistance on celibacy has allowed priesthood to become a mask for all sorts of sexual abuse. This is just the same attitude, but from a different angle. And of course a bishop has so much more power than an ordinary priest.

[Zeuhl]

Phew!

for a second there I thought the divine Lord Sebastian had been found out in some way

[Kiki-frog]

lol, that was my first thought as well, Zeuhl

[DTCwordfan]

lol you can't write CoE it seems in the Title Box.

[anotheoldgit]

DTcrosswordfan

Then perhaps you should have put Church of England.

[DTCwordfan]

Too long for a title, AOG. You need sound-bites in this day and age.

[rojash]

"if they remain celibate and renounce their past activities."

So, basically, if they stop being gay. Perhaps they could allow female bishops as long as they stop being female.

[ChillDoubt]

I trust the gay one's will make their own stipulation that the rest promise not to molest children nor actively assist each other in evading detection and prosecution.

[Bazile]

Lol - when i read the title - the first thing that sprung into my mind was - what has Sebastian Coe done wrong now .

[naomi24]

I can’t see what the problem is. The bible forbids sex between two people of the same gender and the church preaches forgiveness of sin upon repentance. Seems to me they’ve got it right. Sorted!

[lcg]

it said on the news that those in civil partnerships can be bishops. are they supposed to renounce their partners and get divorced first? or am i confused....

[naomi24]

Icg, I expect they can continue to live with their partners so long as they don't 'indulge'. Shame religion is obsessed with sex. Killjoys! ;o)

[sandyRoe]

The African flock won't like this news. The word, 'schism', comes to mind.

[Zacs-Master]

The words Archaic, out of touch, misguided, and even hypocrisy also come to mind.

[DTCwordfan]

I agree with you on that, Zac and Sandy; it already sounds like a rift is opening with the conservative wing from the News at 6 item.

naomi - though your logic is impeccable, why then permit the appointments if it goes against their "scripts" - that reeks of hypocrisy?

[New Judge]

I am as confused as lcg and have the same thoughts as rojash. Let me see if I have it right:

The C of E will now allow homosexual men to become bishops. As far as I know, homosexuality is against the teachings of Christianity.

The C of E will not allow women (of any sexual persuasion) to become bishops. As far as I know being female is not against the teachings of Christianity.

The notion that they will allow those in Civil Partnerships to become bishops provided they remain celibate (and renounce their earlier "sins") is absolutely laughable. What do they think those men will do? Say to their partners “Well sorry, that’s it for the naughties, I’m stepping up to Bishop next week. And by the way, I'm dreadfully regretful about all our earlier sinful activities!!”

Indeed, you could not make it up. How anybody (women or gay men in particular) could become involved with such a ludicrous organisation defies belief.

[naomi24]

//naomi - though your logic is impeccable, why then permit the appointments if it goes against their "scripts" - that reeks of hypocrisy?//

I imagine from their point of view they are offering forgiveness in exchange for repentance - which is what the church trades on. It would only be hypocritical if they accepted gay bishops and ignored their lifestyle.

[Zacs-Master]

....And farcical.