Bbc Paying Out For Jimmy Savile

[sammmo]

According to the daily mail today, the BBC and the NHS therefore the taxpayers could be paying huge payouts to the people he abused..I feel very sorry for the people he's abused the man was evil..but why not share out his own money between those he abused..

[TWR]

If the Compo is to be used, then let it be used to find these dirty disgusting basds and expose them. No amount of money will help the past victims with their bad memories.

[Zeuhl]

/what really wants to be addressed is how did he manage to get away with it? /

that is a very good question aog - perhaps the only one that really matters because it offers the opportunity from stopping it happening again.

Clearly Savile was very clever and spread his abuse around so that most of his victims would feel isolated and a 'lone voice'. I met him once, briefly (shudder) and he was an extraordinary juggernaut of energy and personality. Evidently, he could also be very intimidating if challenged.

A central compilation of confidential complaints would have been useful - well Childline has been going for over 25 years now.

I think they should be asking themselves whether they received any calls that should have been identified for what they were and if they didn't receive them - why not?

[China Doll]

I was going to type a rather long and thoughtful answer but actually, AOG and LazyGun pretty much covered everything for me.

[Zacs-Master]

Isn't that what the boys in blue should be doing, which we pay our taxes for TWR?

[boxtops]

On the TV news last night, they described how at least 4 times over the years, victims came forward (including the child raped in the hospice) but the person they told refused to believe them, or they were told Savile was far too influential for anything to come of it. I agree with the earlier post that we don't want to see his leering face plastered all over the media any longer, it turns my stomach.

[anotheoldgit]

If any other highly thought of celebrities of that era, who to this day still happen to be worshipped and adored by millions. were known to have committed similar disgusting crimes, does anyone think that they would be immediately brought to justice, or would they also escape being publicly exposed until after their deaths?

[missprim]

There have been lots of celebrities that have been arrested for similar crimes recently AOG. We will have to wait and see what happens to them but the ones who are still in the limelight have been suspended from their jobs.

[emmie]

going on the news last evening his victims number in their hundreds, boys as well as girls. As to those who wonder why some have only just come forward, suggesting they are out for compensation should think themselves lucky they haven't suffered at the hands of an abuser. You don't go forward, especially if you are very young, because rarely do adults, including those in the police, social services believe you. You read time and again how a child has told their parent they have been abused by the father, or step father, and the mother takes the man's side. How are you supposed to deal with that.
Savile seems a particularly nasty individual, and some who knew his proclivities and did nothing ought to be ashamed of themselves.

[modeller]

On a practical level if JS was alive today how many of those 286 cases would come to court and more importantly of those that did how many would result in a conviction. ? With our justice system the odds are always in favour of the criminal.

The second point is, how are the courts to know which of the present accusers are genuine, any of the thousands who were in one of those named hospitals at the time of his visit could make a claim.

[zebo]

If these claims were to be subjected to rigourous examination by the courts, I doubt they would be successful, it's the word of one person against that of a dead man. The only ones with any chance of success would be those whose accusations were made during his lifetime and even then, his side of any claim could not now be investigated. As someone has already said, these people have managed to live their lives up til now, is raking over the past for a few pounds of compensation going to help them? In what way are they being compensated? Will they feel better? Maybe the best lasting result from this would be to learn the lessons and make sure it doesn't happen again. As for the others who are being dragged into this, we must be careful not to judge behaviour from 40 years ago byu the standards of today.

[emmie]

modeller, it doesn't seem as though thousands have made a claim.
the senior police officer who was interviewed seemed to believe those who have come forward have genuine claims. The matter is for the police to sort out, they are the ones who could make a case for prosecution against his estate. Perhaps it is too late, the man is dead, but it might make his victims feel vindicated as to what they have been through or told the police long ago, and were not believed.

[emmie]

i don't think rape has a time limit, what was wrong 40 years ago, is just as wrong today.

[ummmm]

Why does everyone think the victims are all going for compensation? If it was revealed that my abuser had been abusing as many young girls as JS then I'd come forward. Not for money, just to confirm.

[jno]

hear hear to all you say, em

[LazyGun]

I just find it a little strange that some people seem more willing to give SoVile the benefit of the doubt, over the claims of some of those who have come forward with allegations of abuse.

As far as I am aware, not all of those that have come forward are actually claiming financial compensation, so some of the views here seem more than a little cynical.

And others are seemingly dismissing many of the accusations, suggesting those claiming abuse never came into contact with SoVile,or that their claims would not stand up if examined in a court, or that the passage of time is just too long. Unless you have been involved in the police investigation, I do not see how you say any of those things, other than just out of cynicism.

And its probably true that for some just an acknowledgement and an apology might be sufficient, and they have gotten on with their lives with little or no effect - but it is equally true that, for some of these victims, the abuse suffered may have a detrimental effect on their development and their lives - such people, it seems to me, should be due some compensation.

Unless you have suffered this sort of abuse, I think it is very difficult to appreciate the kind of damage it can do, and it would be overly cynical just to dismiss even those actually seeking compensation as compo seeking chancers........

[joko]

why should the bbc and nhs be held responsible and expected to pay compensation?

any one of these people could have kicked all this off years ago - and none of them did... how much compensation do they think they need?

he is dead and any money he had will have been distributed

[ummmm]

Some tried, Joko. Some in the NHS knew what he was up to but he threatened to withdraw fundraising. If medical professions tried to sweep it under the carpet, would you bother going to the police?

[spotit3]

None of his cash has been distributed. It is all frozen until all claims have been dealt with.

[jno]

fair enough, spotit, in that case it's still available for victims. Fine by me.