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gordie1 | 23:38 Sat 26th Jan 2013 | News
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What a shame for that poor guy who died robbing Ladbrokes with an immitation gun I know it was wrong I wonder whether he had a heartattack?
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He was probably restrained too long - if done the wrong way this can lead to death.

No sympathy from me though.
Seems it was a replica gun? Why a gasmask? Sounds like he was desperate, a sad end.
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How can being restrained lead to death ?
stupid idiot in my book.....from what it sounds they sat on him and inadvertently blocked the airway into the gasmask that he was wearing....could be suffocation or inadvertently triggering a heart attack. The customers are not being prosecuted as they must have been scared witless as it happened - and, of course, they had no idea at the time that the gun was an imitation.

At last some common sense in the police and Devon and Cornwall at that.
asphyxiation, gordie
A shame for the poor guy who died robbing Ladbrokes.....???? No!
Yes Gness a shame for the man who died.
Granted he certainly shouldn't have been robbing anywhere but sometimes decent people do desperate things in unusual circumstances. Without knowing all of those circumstances it's impossible to judge the situation, but from your response you feel no sorrow at his death so are you therefore in favour of the death penalty for thieves since you think it's okay he died?
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He who lives by the imitation firearm, dies by the imitation firearm.

Alan Levers - a career criminal out on licence; a recovering heroin user and alcohol abuser - was sentenced to 4 years for robbery with an imitation firearm in 2010.

He was jailed for 42 months in 2006 on numerous counts of burglary.

His criminal record, a string of convictions for burglary and assault, dates back to 1976 when he was 13.

Decent he was not.
Several things- firstly a link please to your information.
Secondly, he was, you suggest, a recovering drug and alcohol abuser? Does that necessarily make his life any less important than had he not been, or does it rather perhaps explain somewhat his behaviour?
I will comment further once I have seen the link to your information.
Fair play to the public who intervened
Shame or not he's hardly a loss to society. If you've spent your adult life assaulting people, burgling homes and leaving one poor woman in fear of her life in a similar robbery then the circumstances of his death would leave one with a sense of karma I suppose.
Despite numerous chances and attempts at rehabilitation, someone who is a threat to the general public and drain on the judicial system is no longer so.
Many people don't get the chances he had so no sympathy here.
Absolutely crazy to attempt to take on someone with a gun robbing someone elses shop.

No sympathy for the robber but had it been a real gun and a bystander had been killed in the struggle what would we have been saying now?

We shouldn't encourage have-a-go-heroes
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Yes, we should wait until all the facts are available, post mortem findings and the result of any hearing…..but……where are not functioning as judge or jury and that should not preclude an opinion on the basis of the facts as presented and interpret them, however incomplete………surely.

You always take the part of the “underdog” and that is to be admired but the “underdog” is quite often the culprit.
Being an underdog or a misfit in society should not give licence to break the law…..mitigating factors maybe but not carte blance.

\\\Secondly, he was, you suggest, a recovering drug and alcohol abuser? Does that necessarily make his life any less important than had he not been,///

To whom?

Perhaps to his relatives or close friends, but many would say that the loss of life of an alcoholic or drug addict is “no big deal to society.”

Whether one likes to admit it or not……..the value of lives to the community varies markedly.

The facts as I see them:

If he hadn’t been wearing a gas mask, he would still be alive today.
He was wearing a gas mask to hide his identity.
He was hiding his identity because he was committing a crime.

Unfortunate, but life often plays that particular card.

I have not commented on the emotions and fear of ordinay folk going about their work being confronted by a masked gunman……
If he had done the same thing in the USA he would probably have been shot dead on sight. The USA use that as a reason for the right to carry guns.
all very regrettable...life of any kind is sacred...
I should add I have not the slightest sympathy for him, using an imitation gun has to be treated exactly the same as using a real one.

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