Marriage Break Up?

[DangerUXD]

With Friends like Clegg, does Cameron need enemies?

[vakayu]

What makes you think they're friends?

[EDDIE51]

They hate each other, all the smiles you see on TV is just for the camera.

[DangerUXD]

they are in a coalition together, I'd have thought that some semblance of cooperation would exist rather than simple treachery.

[Mojo-Jo-Jo]

Each has their own agenda. Their co-operation is necessary to achieve some of it hopefully. I bet they can't bear each other.

[vakayu]

They are in a position more or less forced upon them by circumstances it does not mean they have to like they othermsimply agree to disagree sometimes to achieve anything at all they co-exist.

[NOX]

Clegg and Cameron held opposite views on most things. That made them political rivals, not friends. The Conservatives offered slimey and treacherous Cleggy the one thing he thought he would never have- a semblence of power. Clegg seized it like an alcoholic rolling around the gutter with a can of special Brew and thus ensured that the LibDems will never get a vote again in my children's living memory. Before the next election you will see him desperately scuttling backwards like a rat stuck in reverse in the vain hope people will forget what a coniving little sleaze bag he really is and how he betrayed everyone who voted for him. He will do Cameron no favours in his efforts to save his own skin. Who really expected anything else?

[EDDIE51]

They are the opposite ends of the political spectrum, this was a 'Forced Marriage' not one out of love. A large % of the ordinary Lib Dem party members hate Clegg for helping out Cameron and many have left the party to join Labour in protest . This 'marriage' has had a huge cost in the Lib Dem party members.

[rojash]

..or to put it another way "Clegg and Cameron held opposite views on most things. That made them political rivals, not friends. The LibDems offered slimey and treacherous daveyboy the one thing he lusted after: The power to take from the poor and give to his fat rich greedy friends.

[DangerUXD]

So who gets your vote next time Nox?

[Gromit]

It is an arrangement that neither wanted but neither could resist.

The alternative was a Conservative Government with no majority and the LibDems out in the cold. By going into coalition, both parties got some of what they wanted, not all of what they wanted.

Clegg has taken the LibDems to the abyss. It will take decades for it to recover, if it ever does.

Cameron needed to steer the country out of the economic mire left by Labour to have a chance of winning an election outright and ridding himself of the shackles of Clegg. Unfortunately they have failed on the economy, steering us into a double and triple dip of recession.

At the moment it looks like the next election is Labour's on a plate. But things could change in the next two years.

[modeller]

In a way I hope you are right Gromit . I would rather have a strong Labour government than a weak Tory led coalition. They will both be a disaster.

Under Labour we will go deeper into debt and under a Tory/Lib coalition we will stagnate under our EU masters.
In the next couple of years it will ,unusually, be a time of the leaders. What Dave and Ed. do, will affect the next election far more than any previous leaders in the last century.

[Gromit]

Modeller,

There is a possibly Dave will not be there in two years time. If the Tory men in grey suits believe he will not win the next election for the Conservatives they will replace him as they did with Thatcher with Major.
You may have noticed that there are already 4 candidates to replace him.

[sandyRoe]

Should there not be an element of give and take in most marriages? If Cameron wouldn't budge on reform of the Lords he could hardly expect Clegg to help him rearrange constituency boundaries.

[DaisyNonna]

Some people think that marriage should be between people of the opposite sex.

[sandyRoe]

So, should we describe the Cameron Clegg relationship as an uncivil partnership?

[Khandro]

Coalitions should be avoided at all costs, at the last general election we all witnessed 'King Maker' Clegg strutting his stuff, yet completely then and now, out of his depth. The self-interested 'big idea' of p.r. was a complete and very expensive farce, it isn't surprising that Cameron has little time for him. Coalitions produce weak governments, - houses run by their nurseries.

[Mojo-Jo-Jo]

What's that got to do with it Daisy?

[NOX]

Labour get my vote next time Danger, as the LibDems allowed 'call me Dave' in to wreak havoc and misery amongst the very poorest and most vulnerable of our citizens. At the least the Tories were honest, they said ' We're Tories, we're going to sh1t all ver the poor, remember Maggie?' Clegg pretended to be something he wasn't, but Labour get my vote every time anyway, just thought I'd explain why I have such a massive problem with Nick Clegg.

[ludwig]

What did they expect? The Tories scuppered Clegg's plans for House of Lords reform, so this is the payback.

[modeller]

Nox #but Labour get my vote every time anyway#
If that is the case I'm surprised you are so down on Clegg as he has quite a lot in common with Labour. The Lib/Dems repeatedly backed Labour during the Blair/Brown years. They are soft on ,crime, immigration and the EU but so are many Labour MPs. Whilst most Labour supporters want a tougher approach on these matters.

I'm also surprised at your :
# We're Tories, we're going to sh1t all over the poor. #
Most hard working people want the benefit system overhauled.
They see their work shy neighbours enjoying a much higher standard of living than they do and that is why so many of them voted Labour out last time.

Please don't trot out a load of anecdotes , we all know there are genuine cases of hardship . We also all know of many others who are playing the system.