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Are We Now Getting Nearer The Truth?
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For more on marking an answer as the "Best Answer", please visit our FAQ.Why do our police fire at will anyway? Does anyone stand a chance against an armed unit that starts firing? It's the death penalty without the justice system as far as I can see.
Shouldn't there be some structure instead of four officers emptying their guns into somebody before they've even been arrested?
Shouldn't there be some structure instead of four officers emptying their guns into somebody before they've even been arrested?
Well, Mo-jo-jo, strictly speaking they don't always fire at will, but there's a grave risk for anyone who carries a gun in a public place that they will get shot dead and the police will be quite imaginative in describing the incident.
For example, we've had examples of the police being tipped off about a gang of proper professional villains about to hold up a security van or the like. They've shot one or two dead when it is as plain as a pike-staff to anyone who knows such villains, as the police themselves must do, that the men are not going to shoot at police in a million years. Indeed,they are never going to shoot anyone; they rely on fear, not reality. Not that these facts are going to weigh much with the public !
For example, we've had examples of the police being tipped off about a gang of proper professional villains about to hold up a security van or the like. They've shot one or two dead when it is as plain as a pike-staff to anyone who knows such villains, as the police themselves must do, that the men are not going to shoot at police in a million years. Indeed,they are never going to shoot anyone; they rely on fear, not reality. Not that these facts are going to weigh much with the public !
He was shot in the leg and chest. Witnesses have said he was running away from the police marksman when he was shot. That would suggest he was hit first in the leg from behind, and the second shot, the fatal one, as he stood or on the ground wounded. It does not suggest a face to face confrontation with Duggan weilding a gun at the officers.
According to the taxi driver at the first trial, Mark Duggan left the car and ran:
// The [Police] car had stopped – men got out of it very quickly who were carrying guns in their hands. Then I heard the sound of my rear door opening. I saw that Mark Duggan got out and ran. At the same time, I heard firing from the front. I saw shots strike Mark Duggan. He fell to the ground. //
According to the taxi driver at the first trial, Mark Duggan left the car and ran:
// The [Police] car had stopped – men got out of it very quickly who were carrying guns in their hands. Then I heard the sound of my rear door opening. I saw that Mark Duggan got out and ran. At the same time, I heard firing from the front. I saw shots strike Mark Duggan. He fell to the ground. //
Hi Puli - I dont think Waldorf's claim eva got to court, altho I think he got 250k - big money in the early eighties. It was said at the time the Person of Interest was a certain David Martin I think who got thro a police cordon by dressing in drag. SW was picked up by a certain young lady actually David Martin's girlfriend and My! didnt the two men look alike! people said afterwards. Yes if you google DM it is all there. (250k was really 150k still big moolah)
Baldric if you were a Marine doesnt it mean you were in the Falklands - where the enlisted men (called grunts in the Vietnam War) called themselves Baldric and the officers, 'Ruperts'. I am so old and the modern generation so young that no one has a memory of this.
and OK this thread is are we getting near the truth
No Old Git, whatever makes you think we are near the truth let alone..... nearer ? [ a very Hume comment I am sure people will agree
Baldric if you were a Marine doesnt it mean you were in the Falklands - where the enlisted men (called grunts in the Vietnam War) called themselves Baldric and the officers, 'Ruperts'. I am so old and the modern generation so young that no one has a memory of this.
and OK this thread is are we getting near the truth
No Old Git, whatever makes you think we are near the truth let alone..... nearer ? [ a very Hume comment I am sure people will agree
It is amazing how most are always ready to side with the criminal and blame the police.
The police have a very hard and thankless job to do, and I would love to see their critics do the job that they are expected to do each and every day and night.
Perhaps most would wish the service to be discontinued
altogether, thus letting the criminal element take over our streets,
that is until they themselves became victims of these thugs, and then the cry would go out, "where are the police when you need them"?
The police have a very hard and thankless job to do, and I would love to see their critics do the job that they are expected to do each and every day and night.
Perhaps most would wish the service to be discontinued
altogether, thus letting the criminal element take over our streets,
that is until they themselves became victims of these thugs, and then the cry would go out, "where are the police when you need them"?
This photo is a spoiler isnt it? - that is the photo has been around for some time but only today just a coincidence does it find its way into the Media
Just like the unaccountable leak of the written report in the media of the Chief Whip swearing at the Gelz in blue - and just as unaccountably there never was the leaked video on the internet.
strange but true
Just like the unaccountable leak of the written report in the media of the Chief Whip swearing at the Gelz in blue - and just as unaccountably there never was the leaked video on the internet.
strange but true
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