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It's deeply upsetting especially as it seems clear now that he has done something, I know not what, that he shouldn't have. The way he talks I don't think he's ready to admit to anything too serious just yet. I hope for his sake that he has nothing more to own up to.
But on another note. Seriously it's just wrong to label "the church" as if everyone involved in it is up to no good all the time. Hypocrisy there certainly is, and there are a lot of sins it has committed. But the vast majority are well-behaved, moral people. And at worst these people are guilty of the same sins that everyone else is, it's not just something that religions do "better" (well, worse) than everyone else. Just human nature striking again. At least at their hearts the message of most religions is that humans are flawed so and they have tried, albeit unsuccessfully, to do something about that and tackle the problem.
But it's equally hypocritical to tar everyone in the church with the same brush.
But on another note. Seriously it's just wrong to label "the church" as if everyone involved in it is up to no good all the time. Hypocrisy there certainly is, and there are a lot of sins it has committed. But the vast majority are well-behaved, moral people. And at worst these people are guilty of the same sins that everyone else is, it's not just something that religions do "better" (well, worse) than everyone else. Just human nature striking again. At least at their hearts the message of most religions is that humans are flawed so and they have tried, albeit unsuccessfully, to do something about that and tackle the problem.
But it's equally hypocritical to tar everyone in the church with the same brush.
"I know not what, that he shouldn't have"
fiddling with other priests by the sound of it, not an unusual peccadillo in that particular profession or so it seems.
if they stopped with the ridiculous celibacy vows then a lot of their problems would vanish in a jiff, but underage fiddling is a different matter entirely no matter what vows they take.
fiddling with other priests by the sound of it, not an unusual peccadillo in that particular profession or so it seems.
if they stopped with the ridiculous celibacy vows then a lot of their problems would vanish in a jiff, but underage fiddling is a different matter entirely no matter what vows they take.
/// It never ceases to amaze me how people will make excuses for church people and churches, and I include ALL chruches in this. ///
It also amazes me when some if not the majority will grab the opportunity to condemn the church and this man as doing evil things etc, etc, when it is these same people who are quick to condemn others if they criticise the actions of other homosexuals and label them as homophobic.
Isn't that also hypocritical?
After all this man regardless of his position in the church, is obviously a homosexual who has finally been forced to 'come out.
Perhaps we should also question whether or not it is safe for two homosexual men to adopt male children?
It also amazes me when some if not the majority will grab the opportunity to condemn the church and this man as doing evil things etc, etc, when it is these same people who are quick to condemn others if they criticise the actions of other homosexuals and label them as homophobic.
Isn't that also hypocritical?
After all this man regardless of his position in the church, is obviously a homosexual who has finally been forced to 'come out.
Perhaps we should also question whether or not it is safe for two homosexual men to adopt male children?
AOG - "After all this man regardless of his position in the church, is obviously a homosexual who has finally been forced to 'come out."
That's not the point is it - and i think you know that.
It is not that this man is a homosexual who has been forced to come out at all.
It is that this man holds a senior position as a member of the Catholic church which speaks out against homosexuality as evil and against God - and he himself has spoken in such terms.
To abuse his position of seniority to allegedly sexualy abuse other priests using his faith and position as a cover is hypocricy of stratospheric proportions.
To then deny his actions until forced to resign and then to produce s mewaly-mouthed statement about 'falling short of accepted standards' shows the measure of this man.
he is a blatent hypocryte, forced to admit his dreadful abuse and resign. but still not have the common decency and humilty (both of which are tenets of his faith and position) to apologise and beg forgiveness.
That is quite a long way from a gay man coming out - isn't it AOG?
That's not the point is it - and i think you know that.
It is not that this man is a homosexual who has been forced to come out at all.
It is that this man holds a senior position as a member of the Catholic church which speaks out against homosexuality as evil and against God - and he himself has spoken in such terms.
To abuse his position of seniority to allegedly sexualy abuse other priests using his faith and position as a cover is hypocricy of stratospheric proportions.
To then deny his actions until forced to resign and then to produce s mewaly-mouthed statement about 'falling short of accepted standards' shows the measure of this man.
he is a blatent hypocryte, forced to admit his dreadful abuse and resign. but still not have the common decency and humilty (both of which are tenets of his faith and position) to apologise and beg forgiveness.
That is quite a long way from a gay man coming out - isn't it AOG?
