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how comes we can as usual find 30millions to throw away into some foreign cess pit ?
Total thrown away is now £170million (what % has been pocketed ?)
I bet some of these "rebels" are doing pretty well thankyou very much, with god knows how much stolen and stashed away
yet another example of the outrageous actions of a government who seem happy to put foreign citizens welfare above its own, in this case millions of which is to help the islamist "rebels".
how comes we can as usual find 30millions to throw away into some foreign cess pit ?
Total thrown away is now £170million (what % has been pocketed ?)
I bet some of these "rebels" are doing pretty well thankyou very much, with god knows how much stolen and stashed away
yet another example of the outrageous actions of a government who seem happy to put foreign citizens welfare above its own, in this case millions of which is to help the islamist "rebels".
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The fact that you dont understand says it all and as for "happy" if you really think I'm going to waste my time on a semtantic argument about the word and the way its been used here...good luck with that.
Charity begins or at least should at home but you people always conveniently forget that or find some pathetic argument to skirt the issue.
As long as theres people over here in the Uk that are in trouble then they should be a priority and should be the governments absolute priority, yes, its own citizens, that and their security, but as we always see from people like you and governments that becomes a selective issue.
lets give billions away because then we can all feel better about ourselves dsont worry about all the charities over here fighting to get a few quid to buy some equipment to keep some uk child alive etc !
Charity begins or at least should at home but you people always conveniently forget that or find some pathetic argument to skirt the issue.
As long as theres people over here in the Uk that are in trouble then they should be a priority and should be the governments absolute priority, yes, its own citizens, that and their security, but as we always see from people like you and governments that becomes a selective issue.
lets give billions away because then we can all feel better about ourselves dsont worry about all the charities over here fighting to get a few quid to buy some equipment to keep some uk child alive etc !
baz
like many people who present your symptoms, you use the cliché 'charity begins at home'
Clearly you have never thought about what that means because based on your own posts
/As long as theres people over here in the Uk that are in trouble then they should be a priority/
what you really mean is that charity should 'begin' at home and 'stop' there too, because there will always be people 'here' who need something
However, contrasted with the children of Syria, I'm not aware of too many British children being shelled by artillery tonight or left freezing cold and hungry on a hillside
If you think there are, perhaps you could help us locate them so we can send them some help too - I'd hate to think they might be relying on you to do something
like many people who present your symptoms, you use the cliché 'charity begins at home'
Clearly you have never thought about what that means because based on your own posts
/As long as theres people over here in the Uk that are in trouble then they should be a priority/
what you really mean is that charity should 'begin' at home and 'stop' there too, because there will always be people 'here' who need something
However, contrasted with the children of Syria, I'm not aware of too many British children being shelled by artillery tonight or left freezing cold and hungry on a hillside
If you think there are, perhaps you could help us locate them so we can send them some help too - I'd hate to think they might be relying on you to do something
chrissa1
/// Both Labour And Conservative have kept on giving Foreign Aid. It's not just this government. ///
One expects this type of thing from Labour, they are always quick at wasting our cash, that is why we are in the mess we are now after 13 years of Labour.
And don't forget we now have a Tory/LibDem Coalition headed by the most Leftie Tory Prime Minister we have ever had.
So what do you expect.
/// Both Labour And Conservative have kept on giving Foreign Aid. It's not just this government. ///
One expects this type of thing from Labour, they are always quick at wasting our cash, that is why we are in the mess we are now after 13 years of Labour.
And don't forget we now have a Tory/LibDem Coalition headed by the most Leftie Tory Prime Minister we have ever had.
So what do you expect.
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Good question, why don't they?
Relying on other people to do the charity work for you tends not to work. You keep your money, but the charity work ends up ignored because everyone ends up with the same attitude of "let someone else do it". The end result is that the people in need of charity suffer.
Perhaps the peoples of the Arab world should step up to the plate and help each other, if they aren't already to some level. We shouldn't just wait while they get round to realising that. We may end up waiting a long time.
Relying on other people to do the charity work for you tends not to work. You keep your money, but the charity work ends up ignored because everyone ends up with the same attitude of "let someone else do it". The end result is that the people in need of charity suffer.
Perhaps the peoples of the Arab world should step up to the plate and help each other, if they aren't already to some level. We shouldn't just wait while they get round to realising that. We may end up waiting a long time.
"Charity does begin at home -- the UK welfare bill is about £100 billion"
Explain how that is "charity" of that 100bn over 50% is pensions, thats pensions have worked and paid for all their lives.
The amount given to the unemployed is less tha 2.5% included in those charitable cases is a friend of mine who went to work at 16 and got made redundant last year after 40 years and cannot find a job. So he has contributed for 40 years but is labelled by this self serving richman s government as a scrounger.
So please just point out where the charity is.
Explain how that is "charity" of that 100bn over 50% is pensions, thats pensions have worked and paid for all their lives.
The amount given to the unemployed is less tha 2.5% included in those charitable cases is a friend of mine who went to work at 16 and got made redundant last year after 40 years and cannot find a job. So he has contributed for 40 years but is labelled by this self serving richman s government as a scrounger.
So please just point out where the charity is.
Pensions only began, as a right or entitlement, about 100 years ago if memory serves. So it's not exactly an ancient concept to give a fixed amount of money to the elderly. It is, to some extent, charity. I'm not sure I agree with the 50% figure, is that really true? My understanding was that the biggest share of the bill was housing benefit.
It is still a form of charity. And, even if it is not, a great many true charities in the UK do exclusively help those who live here. So Charity has "begun at home" in that sense instead.
It is still a form of charity. And, even if it is not, a great many true charities in the UK do exclusively help those who live here. So Charity has "begun at home" in that sense instead.
Its not a charity, if you want a full pension the only way you can get it, is if you have paid your contribution, Try reading the facts and not the Daily Mail.
Housing benifit is 11% figures vary depending on who you read, however I'll give you 46.7%
Makes no difference if you agree with me, its not my facts, its actual researh. I don't just sit here and make it up, because that what the Mail do
Housing benifit is 11% figures vary depending on who you read, however I'll give you 46.7%
Makes no difference if you agree with me, its not my facts, its actual researh. I don't just sit here and make it up, because that what the Mail do
gness
/// No-one in this country needs to die from lack of food or water. ///
No but many of our elderly die of hypothermia because they can't afford to heat their homes.
/// I have yet to sit in this country and watch a baby die in her mother's arms because she can't be re-hydrated. ///
Perhaps they should not have so many children?
/// I have always believed that if I want to give a pound and there is a chance that half will go missing I give two pounds. ///
And what if that goes 'missing', do you continue to give, give, give?
/// No-one in this country needs to die from lack of food or water. ///
No but many of our elderly die of hypothermia because they can't afford to heat their homes.
/// I have yet to sit in this country and watch a baby die in her mother's arms because she can't be re-hydrated. ///
Perhaps they should not have so many children?
/// I have always believed that if I want to give a pound and there is a chance that half will go missing I give two pounds. ///
And what if that goes 'missing', do you continue to give, give, give?
I'm not entirely sure why you're dragging the Daily Mail into this... I don't read it. I'll look up those figures later, thanks for providing.
Ultimately the point still stands -- although in practice we need to be careful where the money we give as foreign aid ends up, we still should be giving it on principle. Our Charity has begun at home, and can continue outside it to. Not to do so is
Ultimately the point still stands -- although in practice we need to be careful where the money we give as foreign aid ends up, we still should be giving it on principle. Our Charity has begun at home, and can continue outside it to. Not to do so is
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