Scotland

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Would you like to see an independent Scotland?

• No - 182 votes
• 65%
• Yes - 100 votes
• 35%

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[EDDIE51]

They already have a large degree of independence with their own MPs in addition to the Westminster and EU ones. I just can not see what more it would give them.

[EDDIE51]

As this will affect the whole of the UK surely the entire UK should have a vote on it in the referendum ? That's how democracy works .

[douglas9401]

Either an independent Scotland or freedom for London and the south east.
The rest of us seem to get on quite well together when you take pwoppa dahn sahfers out of the picture.

[THECORBYLOON]

If the UK voted to leave the EU, would you say the rest of the EU had to agree?

[emmie]

im a proper down souther and cause no one any harm, ill will, unless perhaps they don't let me have my morning coffee, then all hell breaks loose.

[emmie]

be hilarious if the Scots got their independence then we left the EU in it's entirety, where would that leave them...

[jake-the-peg]

I'm interested in all the people who want Scotland (and presumably Wales) to stay despite the fact that they cost us (England) money - yet want us to leave the EU for the same reason

[ToraToraTora]

Yes, save us a fortune!

[starone]

All the no's are obviously Scots who know when they are lucky. Is it the last four of our Prime Ministers have been Scots?

[youngmafbog]

Non Scott, voted yes.

good riddance to the whining 'people'

[craft1948]

I understand that if the Scots vote yes for independence the Shetlands are going to seek autonomy, and the Scots aren't going to get any of their oil.

[Wharton]

We'll just do to the Shetlanders what the rest of the UK are presently doing to Scotland: steal it from them.

[craft1948]

You are funny Wharton...............

[Quizmonster]

Craft, if you click http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-20042070 a site offered earlier on this thread and look at the dark blue/purple shaded area, you'll see that - even in the highly unlikely event of Shetland becoming independent - a vast area of ocean would still be 'Scottish'.
None of it at all, of course, would be English, a point worth noting by those English ABers who are convinced they currently support Scots financially. You see, they would have no direct oil-income whatsoever!
As I suggested in my previous contribution here, this is precisely the area, to the West of Shetland, that exploration and finds are now happening.

[Slapshot]

No Craft Wharton is being honest this where the arguments always come it's all about oil revenues. Does Scotland gain back a commensurate percentage of the "UK" oil revenues, no it doesn't and that's the tack the SNP have always taken. Point is the UK is collectively better off as the UK not as independent groups. I just wish the people and the rhetoric here and everywhere else would realise that oil is a finite resource for everyone, the UK is screwed when it runs out that's why there is a NO campaign. As for Youngmafbog, there are whinging people on every side of the UK borders Statistically there are far more in England than in Wales Scotland and northern Ireland as a whole!!

[emmie]

I have more in common with my Scottish cousins than i do with Monsieur Clouseau across the water. The EU costs us far more than Scotland, they don't invade in their millions, the Scots that is, i am happy when i visit Scotland and always have had a good time when there, which is more than i can say for some places, which are now part of the nightmare that is the EU.

[ToraToraTora]

Scotland does not own the north sea.

[ToraToraTora]

They can have their share of the national debt though!

[Quizmonster]

Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear, Tora! There is an imaginary line running roughly north-south down the North Sea exactly between the UK and Norway, Denmark, Germany, Holland, Belgium and France. Likewise, there exist imaginary lines running roughly west-east. Each of these nations has control over its own 'bit'. In other words, Germany cannot just decide to build an oil-rig and take it up to a productive part of the Norwegian Sea and begin helping itself to whatever oil they manage to extract. Why? Because it’s Norway’s!
An international treaty of 1973 (quote) “specified that all coastal countries would have a 12 nm territorial sea and a 200 nm Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ). Each country would control the economic exploitation and environmental quality of their EEZ.” (nm = nautical miles)
http://geography.about.com/od/politicalgeography/a/politicaloceans.htm

[jno]

quite so, Quizmonster, which is why China and other SE Asian countries are desperately laying claim to lumps of rock in the China seas: they don't want them but there may well be oil under the EEZs around them.