David Icke

[mikey4444]

There was an interesting interview with David Icke in yesterdays Sunday Times Magazine. I am not able to provide a link here but I expect many people will have read it. Here is a link to his own website ::

http://www.davidicke.com/

Does anybody else agree that is man is clearly deranged ?

[sandyRoe]

I haven't read it either. Does he claim the the West is in imminent danger of being overran by militant Islamists?

[RATTER15]

Clearly lol

The trouble I find listening to his interviews and his talks is he is very convincing, even when he talks about the lizard people!

I just have this funny feeling that he goes home at night in fits of laughter over the people falling for this nonsense and paying a lot of money to spill this garbage on a daily basis.

I think one day he may come clean, I'm not sure though!

[Old_Geezer]

Either so or has latched on to a way to make a fortune. To be still generating threads after all this time, well, that's some publicity drive.

[naomi24]

Potty ideas, but he's a clever man - and extremely well-read. He's no fool.

[murraymints]

he's completely potty.......and rich !!!

[lady-janine]

ratter i'm a Lizard person. do hope he has not been saying anything nasty about me.

i can't be bothered to read what he says. life is too short.

[mikey4444]

sandyRoe...probably, as he thinks just about anything else is possible.

He's clearly a charlatan and interested in making money from the gullible. But what amazes me is that there enough gullible people out there to make it worth his while.

[Old_Geezer]

Have you tried oil of ulay ?

[mikey4444]

naomi...read my reply to sandy. I too think he is no fool, but his followers clearly are.

Mind you, religions have been started with a lot less !

[RATTER15]

naomi24, I agree, a very intelligent guy, in some ways I admire him. Its a very fine line between genius and insanity, I think he is sat on that line and just teetering toward insanity.

[ludwig]

// Does anybody else agree that is man is clearly deranged ? //

I've got the article but I haven't read it yet. Icke is what I'd term as one of the functional insane. Eloquent, makes a good living, seemingly intelligent, carries on with life as normal without being a danger to himself or others, and believes the royal family are alien lizards in human skins.
He's an enigma really.

[mikey4444]

ratter15...just teetering ? Really ? Hasn't he fallen over the edge a long time ago ?

[LazyGun]

Not sure I would agree he is deranged - deluded, maybe,but he clearly does well out of his obsessions, with many devoted followers, all of whom buy books, cds, t-shirts, attend his lectures ( where he recently took the stage for a more or less unscripted 8 hour presentation!). He seems pretty calculating to me, and the cynic in me wonders just how much he actually believes in the conspiracies he routinely peddles himself.

[Gromit]

His wikipedia page is highly amusing.

// In March 1990, while standing in a newsagent's, he felt that a magnetic force was pulling his feet to the ground, and said he heard a voice tell him to look at a particular section of books. One of the books was by Betty Shine, a psychic healer in Brighton. He decided to visit her to ask for help with his arthritis. Shine told him during their third meeting that she had a message for him from the spirit world. She said that he had been sent to heal the Earth, and would become famous but would face opposition. The spirit world was going to pass ideas to him, which he would speak about to others, sometimes not understanding the words himself. She said he would write five books in three years; that in 20 years there would be a different kind of flying machine, where we could go wherever we wanted and time would have no meaning; and there would be earthquakes in unusual places, because the inner earth was being destabilized by having oil taken from the seabed. //

20 years is up, and no sign of those flying time machines.

[mikey4444]

Either he believes all this nonsense that he spouts or he doesn't...there is very little room for manoeuvre here. It is my belief that he is a charlatan, out to make money from the gullible.

I am much more interested in why intelligent, educated people would believe him. One of his latest soundbites is that he believes the Royal Family are not human beings but shape-changing lizards ! How can anybody, even the uneducated possibly think that is true ?

[FredPuli43]

People with paranoia can construct a perfectly logical sequence of statements to fit the paranoid belief. At the simplest level this process can be amusing. A woman who'd set fire to a house because the occupants, "them Jones", had got, and kept, her big cheque from Littlewoods Pools . When I queried this,thinking she may have got the wrong house,by saying "But the people in that house are called Jackson" she said "See? Typical of them Jones, they've changed their name as well"

Mr Icke, an intelligent man, is better at this than most.

[AB Editor]

That's what's nice about local newsagents Gromit, they seem to have everything - even epiphanies.

He's a bit mad, but he seems to be getting on with it quite well, like a real life Sci-Fi Alan Partridge.

[jno]

there would be earthquakes in unusual places, because the inner earth was being destabilized by having oil taken from the seabed

Fracking?

[RATTER15]

Mikey, //ratter15...just teetering ? Really ? Hasn't he fallen over the edge a long time ago ?//

No I think just teetering at the moment, he clearly has the genius still in him to make a lot of money by convincing a lot of people that our royals are in fact lizards.

Could you do that? :-)

[Ellipsis]

there would be a different kind of flying machine, where we could go wherever we wanted and time would have no meaning

The Internet? Or even just Google Earth?