Should Senior Management Of The Care Quality Commission Face Criminal Charges.

[barney15c]

This quango by any other name deliberately covered up its own incompitence with regards to Baby deaths at the Furness Hospital in Barrow, Cumbria. Read behind all the eloquent language and what you get is what amounts to criminal behaviour. Conveniently many of the management of the CQC have moved on but because of the Data protection act they can't be named, whether they hold posts in other government departments or if they recieved payoffs, so 'legally' we can't be sure if any action (if at all) was taken against them. Should it be a prequesite that any senior management be legaly accountable for any 'failings' under their watch. The same is being proposed for reckless bankers after all. I'm geting seriously p**sed off hearing the lessons wil be learnt spiel that happens every time another story of mismanagement and incompitence is discovered. It makes you wonder what other dirty litle secrets are waitng to be unearthed.

[Peter Pedant]

The report for Furness - the one that says the CQC is full of ickle liars is
here :
http://www.cqc.org.uk/sites/default/files/media/documents/grant_thornton_uk_llp_morecambe_bay.pdf

readers will not impressed that for one of the Corporate Manslaughter Bill, representation were made from the Trusts - 'we cant have that we will be indicted every week...'
and so the govt said OK we will change the Bill

so in answer to your q
will they get screwed in the criminal courts ?

the answer seems to be NO.

Apparently the exec of the CQC have all left with b++ody great pay offs and are now running a Hospital - near YOU !

[Sqad]

barney...yes, i did see that this morning, but didn't dare to post as i would have been accused, yet again, of NHS bashing.......

Despicable, disgusting and i would not now believe ANY statistics that came from NHS or linked sources.

What makes me more annoyed is the now accepted terminology ..University Hospitals Morecombe Bay.........what a joke....UNIVERSITY...my @rse.

[Peter Pedant]

*** off not the Furness hospital

reserve your spleen for the placemen and time servers at the CQC

The report access URL above is worth a read:

The report writers ask whether there was an instruction to delete an adverse internal report ? and then note: (1)

________________________
1
This allegation has been denied by the person who is alleged to have given an instruction to delete
this report.

It reads a bit llike an investigation into Joe Bananas of the mafia

[barney15c]

Sound like a classic Sir Humphrey Appleby answer in this report, they will all deny culpability...they have no moral compass and no shame at all (a must for any senior managers of government departments)

[barney15c]

Jeremy Hunt should grow some balls and name and shame these individuals, it in the public interest to hold these people to account, the evidence is irrefutable and any countersuit from these people should be seen off. At the end of the day the government can easily deal with it if they have the wil to do so...after all if they don't like something they just change the law, which they have done on occasions. But too many self interested parties involved at ministerial level so expect a cover up higher up the chain.

[Peter Pedant]

well the Grant thornton report (URL above)
is a document commissioned by the CQC

so I think we have done quite well to get it in public.

I can't quite see the URL for 'the deleted document' - tha is the document CQC commissioned and when it said CQC was really c++p, someone at the CQC deleted it, and later said he had been told to

[barney15c]

is there a site which lists all the senior management at CQC at the time this cover up was going on, it might be possible to trace if they are on the boards of other trusts / gov dept.. i am aware that some of the names are entirely innocent but will give a good idea of where some of the top brass are of which some are accountable.

[Peter Pedant]

well this DT internet site,enumberates the list of shame:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/10129539/CQC-report-watchdog-heads-who-presided-over-scandal-profiles.html

BBC: the CQC is meant to be the families' champion....

The whilstle blower is named and also the senior official who tries to get her certified (as mad) and replaced......

[barney15c]

Some richly rewarded pieces of scum there (sorry but they really are). I hope these individuals are all hauled before an inquiry to answer for their actions.

[Peter Pedant]

Dame Jo said 'it had been a difficult year' for her.

I feel sorry for Baby T's Dad, who complained to X org and was told that they didnt do single cases as BabyT's obviously was, try Y org
and Y org said we dont do multiple cases which obviously Baby T is part of, try X

and not surprisingly after five years he is after their blood......

[barney15c]

Maybe victims of this scandal should consider a class action against some of these individuals if it is later proved they were complicit in the cover up.

[barney15c]

Tenuously related:
http://www.nwemail.co.uk/home/2.6522/our-view-1.888405/chief-nurse-news-raises-questions-1.1063692

[Sqad]

barney ...let me put this as sympathetically as possible..........at the very time that an inquiry was on going concerning the deaths of 1,000 patients at Mid Staffs, another hospital trust was destroying a comprehensive and critical report on the Maternity Unit concerning the unnecessary deaths of babies.

So in a nutshell...failure to protect patients and then covering it up.....

Criminal charges will be forthcoming.

[emmie]

no lessons will be learned, and those causing misery and death essentially walk away scot free, or move onto other posts.

[Sqad]

em 10....I don't think so.

This is the first time that I have seen "State medicine" scrutinised under the microscope in my lifetime.

You will not see the left of centre ABers on this thread nor the usual advocates of State Medicine.

The problem is not the Politicians....but the electorate....who do not want changes to the NHS.

[barney15c]

I don't think that anyone is culpable in this shouldn't have been given the option of resigning, they should have been sacked and therefore lose most of their pension benefits and other payoffs. But with the culture of self serving that ain't likely to happen.

[Peter Pedant]

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I agree with em
I have £5 on criminal charges will NOT be forthcoming

[emmie]

peter, i absolutely second that. Mid Staffs, how many deaths, who was responsible, child neglect in care homes across the country, who is responsible, how many children go missing, no accountability, who gets sacked these days, hardly anyone, because if they are they will resort to the tribunal for unfair dismissal, like Sharon Shoesmith, not accountable, it is happening all over. I could cite cases of my own experiences, of relatives care that was so bad it was criminal neglect, no one accountable, not my problem is the watchword.

[emmie]

one case, can't mention names, but the care worker caused lots of distress to a relative, careless, thoughtless and negligent, the person wasn't sacked, even though the police became involved, but moved to another care home, please don't tell me people don't get away with it because they do. in business once upon a time if a staff member was useless they were put on what was called gardening leave, or moved sideways into a lesser job then finally let go, not so with the NHS.
Did anyone see the figures how much the local councils have paid out to keep their staff from whistleblowing, they sign a non disclosure agreement, just to keep mum, it would keep a small country going for a while.

[emmie]

this is an outrage.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/10111192/Mid-Staffs-Police-investigating-up-to-300-deaths.html