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Unite's stated aim regarding the Labour Party is to:
"shift the balance in the party away from middle class academics and professionals towards people who have actually represented workers and fought the boss"
Which doesn't sound good for Ed, a career politician and the son of an academic.
What should Labour do?
Unite's stated aim regarding the Labour Party is to:
"shift the balance in the party away from middle class academics and professionals towards people who have actually represented workers and fought the boss"
Which doesn't sound good for Ed, a career politician and the son of an academic.
What should Labour do?
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\\\Unite is determined to end the domination of what it sees as an out-of-touch, Oxbridge-educated elite on the Labour benches.\\
Oh dear!.......the left have always called the Tories, the "toffs of Eton" and now the ultra left are calling the lefties "out of touch Oxbridge-educated elite"
That only leaves the "uneducated" as future politicians.........seems reasonable.
Oh dear!.......the left have always called the Tories, the "toffs of Eton" and now the ultra left are calling the lefties "out of touch Oxbridge-educated elite"
That only leaves the "uneducated" as future politicians.........seems reasonable.
"Labour should publish the report into falkirk which it is suppressing.
In Falkirk they should hold a Primary selection process similar to the ones used by the Conservatives."
They do have a certain fairness about their selection process.
"Its members should fight, and fight, and fight again to save the party they love."
Very good. I had to look that up because it was tickling my memory!
In Falkirk they should hold a Primary selection process similar to the ones used by the Conservatives."
They do have a certain fairness about their selection process.
"Its members should fight, and fight, and fight again to save the party they love."
Very good. I had to look that up because it was tickling my memory!
I don't understand all this "out of touch" stuff. Granted, those who have been to Oxbridge are unlikely to ever understand what it's like to live rough on £2 a week with barely half a rug to call their own, but then Politics is also about doing things. I think you need to be highly educated to understand how to do things in the modern world. All the experience in the world won't help you to understand macro-economics, and we're in an increasingly global society so that these things matter.
Mind, even economists don't always understand economics. But they're likely to have a far better chance of being able to do so.
Mind, even economists don't always understand economics. But they're likely to have a far better chance of being able to do so.
The shadow of Michael Foot. How many middle class academics and professionals are Labour MPs or on the party's selection committees? The reason why Blair won elections is that the old working class workers who fought the boss, is not a force but those who are middle class or have aspirations to being seen as middle class are.
What will Unite do, if their own choice for PM tells them to get lost? Refuse to pay the £6.8 million they give to the party? No. Labour out of power is no use to them. And if Milliband wins the election, he'll ignore them. And they'll go on trying to ensure their candidates are selected in seats.
By their thinking, the likes of Harold Wilson (a brilliant academic), Clem Attlee, even, perhaps, Nye Bevin, should never have been selected. It's dinosaur politics.
Don't get "the out of touch" either. Their own man is the son of a Marxist academic and expensively educated and has never done a day's work on a shop floor in his life. Cameron is the same, and to be regretted. But class and education does not, in itself, make you out of touch. Harold MacMillan had both, but had seen life and poverty close up in his early days in politics, rich though he himself was. In spite of his toff manner and accoutrements he understood people
By their thinking, the likes of Harold Wilson (a brilliant academic), Clem Attlee, even, perhaps, Nye Bevin, should never have been selected. It's dinosaur politics.
Don't get "the out of touch" either. Their own man is the son of a Marxist academic and expensively educated and has never done a day's work on a shop floor in his life. Cameron is the same, and to be regretted. But class and education does not, in itself, make you out of touch. Harold MacMillan had both, but had seen life and poverty close up in his early days in politics, rich though he himself was. In spite of his toff manner and accoutrements he understood people
Seems an example of the worst kind of machine politics, if reports are to be believed. Its a gift that keeps on giving for the tories.
I think it is fair enough that unions have some voice in the selection process of a prospective parliamentary candidate, but the tactics they are adopting suggests vote rigging, at best.
Given all the issues surrounding MP salaries, MP expenses, the influence of lobbying, cash for questions, and cash for honours, it might be time to look again at the way all political parties are funded.
I think it is fair enough that unions have some voice in the selection process of a prospective parliamentary candidate, but the tactics they are adopting suggests vote rigging, at best.
Given all the issues surrounding MP salaries, MP expenses, the influence of lobbying, cash for questions, and cash for honours, it might be time to look again at the way all political parties are funded.
It's always amazing how right-wingers whine on about unions being Labour's "paymasters", never quite grasping just who the Tories' "paymasters" are...perhaps they just don't understand that the Tory party also needs dosh!
I refer to venture capitalists, casino bankers, people such as the owners of Wonga and the like, not to mention the "swivel-eyed loons" in the shires.
Whose interests do all of them have at heart, do you suppose?
I refer to venture capitalists, casino bankers, people such as the owners of Wonga and the like, not to mention the "swivel-eyed loons" in the shires.
Whose interests do all of them have at heart, do you suppose?
They still don't get it do they! Socialism Cannot work, impossible, but you have those that like to oppress the masses and live under capitalism to do it, eg Soviet Union! Socialists hate prosperity, they prefer to live in their grace and favour mansions whilst imposing poverty on their Followers and the blaming it on anyone else. I realise that the reds under the bed hate New Labour, probably more than they hate the Tories but at least they where smart enough to realise that they need to kill off the fatted calfs to get into power QED, 1997 onwards.....
Quiz, I take it that was a dig at me.
Am I no longer allowed to state facts? It was not a whinge in any shape or form, simply pointing out the old adage of he who pays the piper.
And what have the Tory donors got to do with this topic?
For the record there are also many people with 'normal' jobs who contribute to the Tory party. Or are you going to resort to name calling for them too?
Boy, you have a chip.
Am I no longer allowed to state facts? It was not a whinge in any shape or form, simply pointing out the old adage of he who pays the piper.
And what have the Tory donors got to do with this topic?
For the record there are also many people with 'normal' jobs who contribute to the Tory party. Or are you going to resort to name calling for them too?
Boy, you have a chip.
// Labour is to refer a report into allegations of irregularities in the selection of an election candidate in Falkirk to the police.
Party leader Ed Miliband has said an internal inquiry into events shows people were being signed up to Labour without their knowledge.
Two local party members have been suspended and Labour HQ has stepped in to run the selection race. //
So much for the 'he who pays the piper' nonsense.
Party leader Ed Miliband has said an internal inquiry into events shows people were being signed up to Labour without their knowledge.
Two local party members have been suspended and Labour HQ has stepped in to run the selection race. //
So much for the 'he who pays the piper' nonsense.
On Thursday, Labour's general election co-ordinator Tom Watson, quit for the "future unity" of the party. Mr Watson has been a major thorn in the side of Murdoch for the past 2 years. As Murdoch now has his back to the wall again over his secretly recorded comments, am I the only one that sees Mr Watson resignation as somewhat suspious ?
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