Is This A Good Day To Bury Bad News ?

[Peter Pedant]

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I note the police use of dead children's identities has a small small exposure to day


has anyone spotted anything else

[bednobs]

personally i don't really see why that's so shocking/bad news

[AB Editor]

I thought it was common practice as well?

Is it really that reprehensible?

[ichkeria]

Probably a very bad day to bury bad news. Nothing very exciting appears to have happened yet ...

[Davethedog]

I agree with Bedknobs. No one was hurt, no one lost anything and It was probably for a good reason.

[2sp_]

I think that undercover police need to obtain false and credible identities, and if that means taking on those of deceased children, so be it.

I'm glad that they don't tell the families, what good would that do? Only serve to upset the families even more, and put the undercover officers in danger.

I really don't see this as being newsworthy at all.

[weecalf]

Don't understand this ,why was this done ?

[mikey4444]

Can someone please explain the following :::

If the Police needed to make up false identities, to use in undercover operations, why did they have to use real children's details ? Why couldn't they just make them up ? Then no parents of deceased kids could have had any reason to complain.

[jake-the-peg]

Because Mikey the sections of the police doing this were not properly authorised and were acting on their own - er initiative.

They didn't have access to create authorised false identities

[Davethedog]

They use these identities, because in this day and age when everything is available at the touch of a button, the birth has been registered.

[craft1948]

Probably because birth details are easily checkable, even the police can't alter/amend registrars' records...........

[mikey4444]

Surely the hush-hush brigade could register false births ? MI5 and MI6 would need to do that on a regular basis.

[craft1948]

I doubt it mikey, but am happy to be proved wrong..............

[FredPuli43]

It was news a while ago, PP, with official apology and all. Makes perfect sense, nothing new about the practice (wasn't it in Day of the Jackal ?), but once we got caught out doing it, apologies all round.

[Orderlimit]

I suppose so Mikey, particularly when, it appears, some people are easily fooled by the basics.

[mikey4444]

How difficult can it be to slip a form into a filing cabinet somewhere ? Our Police might not be terribly bright but even they could do that !

[hc4361]

I thought it was accepted common practice, too.

I can't really see the problem but of course it's not my child's name being used. I like to think I'd give permission if asked - better than a conman fraudster or people trafficker abusing the name, which of course does happen.

[hc4361]

mikey, it is more complicated than slipping a form in somewhere.

Anybody is entitled to get of copy of another person's birth certificate. If an officer is working undercover and somebody is suspicious then it is not beyond the realms of possibility that they would check it up.

[mikey4444]

But if the real person was dead, than wouldn't the death certificate be on record too, just like the birth certificate ?

[wolf63]

The births and deaths are not 'linked up'. It may be different now but that is why they this method is used.

[craft1948]

It's not a matter of filing a bit of paper. If someone gave me a name, DOB, and place of birth I could check it on my PC within a couple of minutes, if they were born before 2005.