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Asylumn Seeker Who Has Been Offered A Place At Oxford Is Told His Family Must Return To Their Country.
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Whilst doing exceptionally well with his studies in his short time in England, (for which he must be very much praised), is there any reason why his family should also be granted permission to stay?
Whilst doing exceptionally well with his studies in his short time in England, (for which he must be very much praised), is there any reason why his family should also be granted permission to stay?
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Sqad, we don't know what GCSE exams he passed nor where he got them. It could even be that he just took A levels, being an exceptional talent. Oxford is more impressed by A levels than GCSE and he was in exceptional circumstance. You or I, made X years younger, would have had to have had good GCSEs to even get considered or even allowed A levels; my school chucked everyone, who didn't et six O levels, out of the school !
AOG,
I took it from the link that they originate from Iran but sought asylum from Syria, hence my reasoning that they return there once hostilities have ended.
They obviously left Iran for a reason for Syria so it seems odd that they have to be deported to Afghanistan.
I tend to err with Sqad, it does appear astounding that someone learns English from scratch and gains Oxford entry examination results, all within 2 years.
I took it from the link that they originate from Iran but sought asylum from Syria, hence my reasoning that they return there once hostilities have ended.
They obviously left Iran for a reason for Syria so it seems odd that they have to be deported to Afghanistan.
I tend to err with Sqad, it does appear astounding that someone learns English from scratch and gains Oxford entry examination results, all within 2 years.
/an A* in maths and A in chemistry and physics/
Those aren't particularly impressive. My business partner's son has just achieved better but is going to King's London having been turned down by Oxford.
Oxford's objective is to be a word class centre of excellence in study and research in competition with Cambridge, MIT, Harvard etc
So they have their own way of scrutinising applicants and have the pick of many exceptional candidates.
Clearly, they think this guy is brilliant at Maths and Physics and will have him regardless of what GCSEs he has or hasn't passed
Those aren't particularly impressive. My business partner's son has just achieved better but is going to King's London having been turned down by Oxford.
Oxford's objective is to be a word class centre of excellence in study and research in competition with Cambridge, MIT, Harvard etc
So they have their own way of scrutinising applicants and have the pick of many exceptional candidates.
Clearly, they think this guy is brilliant at Maths and Physics and will have him regardless of what GCSEs he has or hasn't passed
sqad indeed
there is another aspect to Oxford entry that my partner could articulate better due to his recent family experience but he's on holiday ...
From memory, it's something about them looking for aspects of character that will facilitate a student thriving and growing in that rather rarefied atmosphere
That's why the college stay and interviews are so crucial at Oxford
there is another aspect to Oxford entry that my partner could articulate better due to his recent family experience but he's on holiday ...
From memory, it's something about them looking for aspects of character that will facilitate a student thriving and growing in that rather rarefied atmosphere
That's why the college stay and interviews are so crucial at Oxford
ChillDoub
/// They obviously left Iran for a reason for Syria so it seems odd that they have to be deported to Afghanistan. ///
Am I being rather Cynical into believing that they stood more chance gaining asylum in Britain if they said they were from war torn Syria?
/// Muhammad, 18, is of Afghan descent but was born in Iran and grew up in Syria - which is now being torn apart in a brutal civil war. ///
Perhaps they have to be deported to Afghanistan because they are Afghan nationals?
/// They obviously left Iran for a reason for Syria so it seems odd that they have to be deported to Afghanistan. ///
Am I being rather Cynical into believing that they stood more chance gaining asylum in Britain if they said they were from war torn Syria?
/// Muhammad, 18, is of Afghan descent but was born in Iran and grew up in Syria - which is now being torn apart in a brutal civil war. ///
Perhaps they have to be deported to Afghanistan because they are Afghan nationals?
Baldric
/// why not tell us why he should be allowed to stay, when his family, have been turned down for Asylum, which must now make them, and him
illegals? ///
Where have I said he should be allowed to stay?
But since you ask he can apply for a students visa, but his family is an all too different matter, they should be deported.
I would have thought that I had already made my view known, by asking the question "is there any reason why his family should also be granted permission to stay"
But why wait for a response from me, you generally twist my words so as to get the answer you yourself is looking for.
/// why not tell us why he should be allowed to stay, when his family, have been turned down for Asylum, which must now make them, and him
illegals? ///
Where have I said he should be allowed to stay?
But since you ask he can apply for a students visa, but his family is an all too different matter, they should be deported.
I would have thought that I had already made my view known, by asking the question "is there any reason why his family should also be granted permission to stay"
But why wait for a response from me, you generally twist my words so as to get the answer you yourself is looking for.
Agreed, AOG. You do get unfairly treated on this site sometimes (only sometimes, mind!).
Oxford and Cambridge always look beyond exams. They want more than a swot who is good at exams. After all, their courses are more testing than A levels, so, on a purely intellectual level, they are looking for someone capable of far more than that. If an Einstein or an F R Leavis turns up, they would hope to spot the extra quality of mind. Otherwise, they are looking for a rounded intellect, someone who can answer frivolous questions such as ; a real example; "Do animals have rights?", answers to which demonstrate a flexibility of mind and an intelligence in an instant response. Try answering that one when you are hoping to read something other than philosophy!
This young man may have been adjudged to fall into the first category, but may also have been in the second.
Oxford and Cambridge always look beyond exams. They want more than a swot who is good at exams. After all, their courses are more testing than A levels, so, on a purely intellectual level, they are looking for someone capable of far more than that. If an Einstein or an F R Leavis turns up, they would hope to spot the extra quality of mind. Otherwise, they are looking for a rounded intellect, someone who can answer frivolous questions such as ; a real example; "Do animals have rights?", answers to which demonstrate a flexibility of mind and an intelligence in an instant response. Try answering that one when you are hoping to read something other than philosophy!
This young man may have been adjudged to fall into the first category, but may also have been in the second.
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