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Is Red Ed Fair Game For The Mail Here?
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I don't think so, even if his dad was a raving marxist it does not justify using that to knock Ed.
I don't think so, even if his dad was a raving marxist it does not justify using that to knock Ed.
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No, but it will always haunt him. Every time he says anything which is remotely leftish, in the eyes of the tabloids, someone there will raise the spectre of his father, whom he much admired. The theory will always be propounded that, when he proposes state interference, he is giving us only part of what he believes in and in truth he would like state ownership of key industries and state control of the rest. Me, I think. in his heart of hearts , he does think that, but he is constrained by the realpolitik of being elected.
Regardless of what anyone thinks of Ed Milliband
It is especially despicable of The Daily Mail to attack the memory of someone dead, based on such ludicrous 'evidence':
as his son wrote; "To ignore his service and work in Britain and build an entire case about him hating our country on an adolescent diary entry is, of course, absurd"
The bigger issue here is that of the unscrupulous, cynical and dangerous journalistic style of The Mail
I don't think for one minute that Geoff Levy truly believes Ralph Milliband 'hated Britain'
But he and his editorial puppet masters know that those simplistic ideas in those headlines and opening paras, stick in the public consciousness regardless of what the truth or the facts demonstrate when presented in a balanced manner.
Personally, I think truth, facts and balance are very important and more important than the agenda of any media group.
It is especially despicable of The Daily Mail to attack the memory of someone dead, based on such ludicrous 'evidence':
as his son wrote; "To ignore his service and work in Britain and build an entire case about him hating our country on an adolescent diary entry is, of course, absurd"
The bigger issue here is that of the unscrupulous, cynical and dangerous journalistic style of The Mail
I don't think for one minute that Geoff Levy truly believes Ralph Milliband 'hated Britain'
But he and his editorial puppet masters know that those simplistic ideas in those headlines and opening paras, stick in the public consciousness regardless of what the truth or the facts demonstrate when presented in a balanced manner.
Personally, I think truth, facts and balance are very important and more important than the agenda of any media group.
If the Daily Mail wants to bring up stuff that people wrote long ago then perhaps it's fair game to remind them of their 'Hurrah for the black shirts' headline in the 30's.
What with this and DC and the price of a loaf of bread the hacks are excelling themselves with non-stories this week!
Not to mention silly pictures at conference like this one
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Easy known it's conference season
What with this and DC and the price of a loaf of bread the hacks are excelling themselves with non-stories this week!
Not to mention silly pictures at conference like this one
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Easy known it's conference season
Didn't know that "showbiz columnist" was an exempted occupation in the War ! Somebody knew somebody. My own father was exempted, aged 26 in 1939, but he was a specialist engineer in precision engineering and the government thought he was better employed making precisely engineered parts for war machines and munitions than being attacked in the field by the product of German efforts in that direction. If only he'd known that the gossipy pen was mightier than the sword, he'd have saved all that testing !
Does anyone suggest that Dacre junior is influenced by the apparent cowardice of Dacre senior? I think we should be told.
Does anyone suggest that Dacre junior is influenced by the apparent cowardice of Dacre senior? I think we should be told.
To call a man 'evil', a term generally reserved for child rapists etc and to use a persons gravestone as a pun is outrageous.
I have very little time for politicians but back Milliband in his stance.
Still, good to see the Daily Fail continues to print its garbage post Leveson, eh?
Almost laughable.
I have very little time for politicians but back Milliband in his stance.
Still, good to see the Daily Fail continues to print its garbage post Leveson, eh?
Almost laughable.
Camerons father made his millions,and kept it all in tax dodging off shore accounts in Panama and Geneva,and that smirking Osborne tells us that not paying tax is morally repugnant. One law for posh boys and another for us, no wonder Cameron is backing Ed Milliband on this one The sins of father eh?
Was our Ed wrong to protest too much?
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One of our ex-Prime Ministers (Robert Cecil, Lord Salisbury, a Tory!) described the Daily Mail as a newspaper "written by office boys for office boys." There is not a shred of evidence that it has ever risen higher than that level in terms of the probable intelligence of either its staff or its readership!
These are currently the top rated responses from Daily Mail readers on the story:
1. Daily mail, you are a disgrace
2. Way out of line daily mail. Cheap.
3. This is the lowest form of journalism.
4. You should be ashamed of yourselves. Basing a whole article on the comment of a 17 year old is, as Milliband rightly says, simply a smear tactic
5. DM, you have excelled yourselves with this article. I did not think it possible, but you really have managed to sink to a new low. I am not a Labour fan, but this article is diabolical.
6. DM, the people who rightly shamed those celebrating Margaret Thatcher's death but now writing disgusting vitriol about a dead man.
7. DM you should be ashamed of yourselves!
8. Get over it DM, it's pathetic to attack someone who can't answer back.
9. It is unusual to read such ill-informed un-redeemed nastiness from a national newspaper. You are an absolute disgrace to democracy and this country.
10. What a load of rubbish. He was not in a strop. He defended his dead father against all this nonsense. He knew the horror his father had escaped from and how he served in the Navy.. Any of us would have done the same This article casts serious doubt on the veracity of the DM . I hope readers will remember this when they are persuaded which way to vote at the next election
It looks like this has backfired quite badly on the Daily Mail.
1. Daily mail, you are a disgrace
2. Way out of line daily mail. Cheap.
3. This is the lowest form of journalism.
4. You should be ashamed of yourselves. Basing a whole article on the comment of a 17 year old is, as Milliband rightly says, simply a smear tactic
5. DM, you have excelled yourselves with this article. I did not think it possible, but you really have managed to sink to a new low. I am not a Labour fan, but this article is diabolical.
6. DM, the people who rightly shamed those celebrating Margaret Thatcher's death but now writing disgusting vitriol about a dead man.
7. DM you should be ashamed of yourselves!
8. Get over it DM, it's pathetic to attack someone who can't answer back.
9. It is unusual to read such ill-informed un-redeemed nastiness from a national newspaper. You are an absolute disgrace to democracy and this country.
10. What a load of rubbish. He was not in a strop. He defended his dead father against all this nonsense. He knew the horror his father had escaped from and how he served in the Navy.. Any of us would have done the same This article casts serious doubt on the veracity of the DM . I hope readers will remember this when they are persuaded which way to vote at the next election
It looks like this has backfired quite badly on the Daily Mail.
Loving this (highly rated response) on the Daily Mail's site:
"I'm no fan of Ed Milliband, but his was a very well written response to what was an vicious and unseemly article by the Mail. Character assassination of the man's dead father, simply because you do not agree with his political views, is wholly unacceptable. And I see that the Mail editorial team are STILL at it today in the editorial comment - saying that Ed Milliband has "vented his spleen" and "stamped his feet and DEMANDED a right to reply". So he should in the face of this gutter journalism from the Mail. To then go on in your editorial to say that Ed Milliband's response is "tetchy and menacing" when it is clearly nothing of the sort only serves to highlight the Mail's frothing at the mouth, rabid dog style approach where this article is concerned. You have misjudged this very, very badly. A spectacular own goal by the Mail's editorial team, which will only achieve the almost unthinkable - eliciting sympathy for Ed Milliband from Daily Mail readers."
Wow!
This is brilliant!!!
"I'm no fan of Ed Milliband, but his was a very well written response to what was an vicious and unseemly article by the Mail. Character assassination of the man's dead father, simply because you do not agree with his political views, is wholly unacceptable. And I see that the Mail editorial team are STILL at it today in the editorial comment - saying that Ed Milliband has "vented his spleen" and "stamped his feet and DEMANDED a right to reply". So he should in the face of this gutter journalism from the Mail. To then go on in your editorial to say that Ed Milliband's response is "tetchy and menacing" when it is clearly nothing of the sort only serves to highlight the Mail's frothing at the mouth, rabid dog style approach where this article is concerned. You have misjudged this very, very badly. A spectacular own goal by the Mail's editorial team, which will only achieve the almost unthinkable - eliciting sympathy for Ed Milliband from Daily Mail readers."
Wow!
This is brilliant!!!
Was our Ed wrong to protest too much?
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Not really. EM accepts he himself is fair game, as 'it goes with the territory'.
I'd be pretty p!ssed off too if someone was using my deceased father for no other reason than selling copy.
But that's typical of the Daily Fail, picking on the dead who can't answer back.
EM is taking the correct course in righting what is obviously a terrible wrong.
Max Mosley was never accused of having the same sympathies as his father so why should Milliband have to defend himself against such antagonistic behaviour?
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Not really. EM accepts he himself is fair game, as 'it goes with the territory'.
I'd be pretty p!ssed off too if someone was using my deceased father for no other reason than selling copy.
But that's typical of the Daily Fail, picking on the dead who can't answer back.
EM is taking the correct course in righting what is obviously a terrible wrong.
Max Mosley was never accused of having the same sympathies as his father so why should Milliband have to defend himself against such antagonistic behaviour?
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