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How Many Is Too Many?
Yet another young person seriously ill after taking drugs at the Warehouse Project after one death and 15 other clubbers also ending up in hospital the previous weekend, they even have their own medical team on site.
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I know that for many of the "type" of clubber who go to this kind of venue, drugs are a part of the whole experience but how many deaths and hospitalisations do there have to be?
A rogue batch(es) of drugs are alleged to be blamed, taking into account a number of other incidents in the local area, and nobody is forcing them to take the drugs, if this venue closed they would probably find somewhere else so what else can be done?
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I know that for many of the "type" of clubber who go to this kind of venue, drugs are a part of the whole experience but how many deaths and hospitalisations do there have to be?
A rogue batch(es) of drugs are alleged to be blamed, taking into account a number of other incidents in the local area, and nobody is forcing them to take the drugs, if this venue closed they would probably find somewhere else so what else can be done?
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You seem to know more about drugs than I do ummmm ! If they continue to take cocaine or "coke" as you call it, every Saturday night, they are addicted...period. And I am sure that you can't take Heroin "recreationally".
Stop making excuses for drug addiction. Its a serious problem in Britain and it isn't helped by soft-pedalling and euphemistic language.
Stop making excuses for drug addiction. Its a serious problem in Britain and it isn't helped by soft-pedalling and euphemistic language.
ummmm
\\\\\So with your thinking everyone who goes to the pub on a Saturday night is an alcoholic? Or if someone has a few glasses of wine in the evening? \\\
I can only assume that the above was for me???
If it was, I didn't say that everyone who had a couple at the weekend were addicts......if it wasn't for me..........then forget my comment.
\\\\\So with your thinking everyone who goes to the pub on a Saturday night is an alcoholic? Or if someone has a few glasses of wine in the evening? \\\
I can only assume that the above was for me???
If it was, I didn't say that everyone who had a couple at the weekend were addicts......if it wasn't for me..........then forget my comment.
Sqad..in the same way that drunk-driving, and smoking in crowded places have been dealt with...by more action and less sitting on our hands.
I remember in the 1960s when the breathalyser was first introduced...it was such a infringement of peoples rights and freedoms, that the whole world was going to end if drunks couldn't get behind the wheel any more. Now we view this activity as morally indefensible. The same goes with smoking...its only a few years ago that Pubs and cafes stunk of cigarette smoke, with overflowing ashtrays on every table. Now, even in tough areas, like where I live, there are orderly groups of men, standing outside Pubs in the rain, puffing away. Who would have thought that would happen, less than 10 years ago ?
I realise its not a easy problem but my nieces and nephews tell me that the night clubs that they attend are full of drug dealers, and the toilets resemble a busy branch of Boots. If everybody knows this is going on, then I fail to see why the authorities just stand back and let it happen.
I remember in the 1960s when the breathalyser was first introduced...it was such a infringement of peoples rights and freedoms, that the whole world was going to end if drunks couldn't get behind the wheel any more. Now we view this activity as morally indefensible. The same goes with smoking...its only a few years ago that Pubs and cafes stunk of cigarette smoke, with overflowing ashtrays on every table. Now, even in tough areas, like where I live, there are orderly groups of men, standing outside Pubs in the rain, puffing away. Who would have thought that would happen, less than 10 years ago ?
I realise its not a easy problem but my nieces and nephews tell me that the night clubs that they attend are full of drug dealers, and the toilets resemble a busy branch of Boots. If everybody knows this is going on, then I fail to see why the authorities just stand back and let it happen.
It just annoys me Sqad when the only response to a large, criminal drug culture these days is for self-important people, most of then ex-or still serving Policemen, to suggest that we make Heroin legal, along with all other dugs.
What would happen if Marijuana was made legal for instance ? How is most Marijuana consumed ? With aid of tobacco ( I think ! )
The outcome of making this legal would immediately result in all the cigarettes companies to start offering fags with Marijuana in them ! And we all know how responsible the tobacco industry is don't we ?
What would happen if Marijuana was made legal for instance ? How is most Marijuana consumed ? With aid of tobacco ( I think ! )
The outcome of making this legal would immediately result in all the cigarettes companies to start offering fags with Marijuana in them ! And we all know how responsible the tobacco industry is don't we ?
jno
\\\\People take drugs because they like them, \\\
Depends upon which drugs you are talking about, but that statement would make me very suspicious that "like" was the same as "addicted."
\\\Some become addicted. Most don't. Because most drugs are illegal, taking them involves some risk.\\\
Again, it depends upon which drugs are being considered, yes, most don't but the potential for addiction rears it's head. The fact that the drugs are illegal has made little or no impact on their use.
\\\\People take drugs because they like them, \\\
Depends upon which drugs you are talking about, but that statement would make me very suspicious that "like" was the same as "addicted."
\\\Some become addicted. Most don't. Because most drugs are illegal, taking them involves some risk.\\\
Again, it depends upon which drugs are being considered, yes, most don't but the potential for addiction rears it's head. The fact that the drugs are illegal has made little or no impact on their use.
statistics suggest one in three adults has taken an illicit drug in the UK. Does that mean 12 million drug addcits? Nope.
"Surveys on a national and local level have found that illegal drug use is only an occasional activity for most people.
Most illegal drug use is experimental or on a relatively controlled, recreational basis.
Most people who use drugs – be it legal or illegal substances – do not come to serious harm"
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"Surveys on a national and local level have found that illegal drug use is only an occasional activity for most people.
Most illegal drug use is experimental or on a relatively controlled, recreational basis.
Most people who use drugs – be it legal or illegal substances – do not come to serious harm"
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Social factors probably have a bearing, your average clubber or yuppie coke snorter is not the usual type to end up addicted to a drug like heroin, bringing with it issues such as crime to assist in finding a habit, associated issues such as prostitution and generally social issues such as the loss of jobs, families and homelessness. Heroin is a life wrecking drugs, similarly drugs like crystal meth, although that seems to have had less of an impact over here (yet) than in the States.
It's not an easy fix either, even if an individual gets onto a methadone programme, it's a long way back.
There may be deaths amongst clubbers, such as the link in the OP but by and large, the more recreational drugs do not cause the kind of issues presented to the law and medical fields as more street drugs like heroin so it's probably easier to turn a blind eye to.
It's not an easy fix either, even if an individual gets onto a methadone programme, it's a long way back.
There may be deaths amongst clubbers, such as the link in the OP but by and large, the more recreational drugs do not cause the kind of issues presented to the law and medical fields as more street drugs like heroin so it's probably easier to turn a blind eye to.
Tambo..my French is a bit schoolboy these days but my vocabulary of slang is very limited and I have nothing to do with drug culture. I'm sorry to show my ignorance but what are sniffs ?
My Mum used to suffer from a terrible bad blocked nose and she made much use of a Vicks Inhaler, which us kids called her "sniffer"
I presume this is not what you had in mind ?
My Mum used to suffer from a terrible bad blocked nose and she made much use of a Vicks Inhaler, which us kids called her "sniffer"
I presume this is not what you had in mind ?
jno....no I cannot confirm or reproduce your statistics but from memory:
Young people in the UK are more likely to take cocaine, Ecstasy and amphetamine than those in any other country on the Continent.
The analysis, by the European Union's drug agency, also pointed to levels of deaths from drugs that are higher here than in any other major nation in the EU.
'It is particularly disturbing that we have the highest proportion of 15 and 16-year-olds using cocaine.
To me, this suggests a problem.........
Young people in the UK are more likely to take cocaine, Ecstasy and amphetamine than those in any other country on the Continent.
The analysis, by the European Union's drug agency, also pointed to levels of deaths from drugs that are higher here than in any other major nation in the EU.
'It is particularly disturbing that we have the highest proportion of 15 and 16-year-olds using cocaine.
To me, this suggests a problem.........
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