Will You Abide By These Eu Rules?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2462617/At-FOUR-recycling-boxes-EVERY-home-new-EU-rules.html

If this comes into force thanks once again to EU rules, why does it say "every household in Britain" when only councils across England and Wales have been told they have to follow EU guidance, why are Scotland and Northern island not mentioned, are they not also in the EU?

/// Every household in Britain will be expected to separate their recycling in to four separate boxes from 2015 under new European Union rules. ///

/// Councils across England and Wales have been told they have to follow EU guidance that will require paper, metal, glass and plastic to be collected separately. ///

[Kromovaracun]

Ditto, SP. I find it really bizarre how people are just ignoring the fact that the story is patently untrue. It's actually kind of depressing, considering how often this happens over political issues.

[TWR]

This is getting above a joke EU, If they told you to walk down the street with your finger up you rs, would you do it you sheep, have you people out there not got the balls to say enough is enough and start doing something about it?

[THECORBYLOON]

"Relevant legislation and regulations

The EU Waste Framework Directive provides the legislative framework for the collection, transport, recovery and disposal of waste, and includes a common definition of waste (PDF, 81.3KB, 11 pages) . The directive requires all member states to take the necessary measures to ensure waste is recovered or disposed of without endangering human health or causing harm to the environment and includes permitting, registration and inspection requirements.

The directive also requires member states to take appropriate measures to encourage firstly, the prevention or reduction of waste production and its harmfulness and secondly the recovery of waste by means of recycling, re-use or reclamation or any other process with a view to extracting secondary raw materials, or the use of waste as a source of energy. The directive’s requirements are supplemented by other directives for specific waste streams.

The Waste (England and Wales) (Amendment) Regulations 2012 were laid before Parliament and the Welsh Assembly on 19 July 2012 and come into force on 1 October 2012.The amended regulations relate to the separate collection of waste. They amend the Waste (England and Wales) Regulations 2011 by replacing regulation 13. From 1 January 2015, waste collection authorities must collect waste paper, metal, plastic and glass separately."

[THECORBYLOON]

In answer to ANOTHEOLDGIT's question about Scotland and Ulster not being telt they had to follow the Directive, environmental matters are devolved to the Scots and Ulster Governments so it is up to them what they do about it.

[Mojo-Jo-Jo]

THE STORY IS NOT! TRUE! Jeez, you made me squirt.

[ichkeria]

I can't see that happening. Our council's collectors sort recycled waste into separate containers themselves, a hell of a job I'd have thought.
I'd be happy to separate it out, but the multiplicity of bins would be a problem, and would also be bound to deter the less keen recyclers amongst us. As it is we have 6 bins - I don't mind, personally, but I can sympathise with the many who would mind.
Every council in Britain seems to have a different approach, which seems faintly ridiculous.

[emmie]

if there was a country wide directive on recycling then it wouldn;t be so bad, however there isn't, as pointed out each council is different. My mothers council recycling collection is a nightmare, she is unable to put the bins out on pavement, which people are supposed to do, we arranged that the bin men would take it from the garden by the gate, however they don't always do it, nor when they do, return the heavy weight wheelie bin back into the garden, she has to ask the neighbours to hoist it back, stupid.

[Kromovaracun]

"This is getting above a joke EU, If they told you to walk down the street with your finger up you rs, would you do it you sheep, have you people out there not got the balls to say enough is enough and start doing something about it?"

IT

ISN'T

TRUE.

[anotheoldgit]

/// At least FOUR recycling boxes for EVERY home: New EU rules mean households will have to separate all rubbish from 2015 ///

/// Paper, metal, glass and plastic will all have to be collected separately ///

It's just not true says some, well thanks to THE CORBYLOON this is what the directive says:

*** They amend the Waste (England and Wales) Regulations 2011 by replacing regulation 13. From 1 January 2015, waste collection authorities must collect waste paper, metal, plastic and glass separately." ***

That seems true to me, but then I don't suffer from an Anti-Daily Mail Phobia.

[sp1814]

AOG

Please check out my earlier links.

The Daily Mail relies on it's readership behaving like sheep.

Don't be a sheep.

[anotheoldgit]

sp1814

/// Don't be a sheep. ///

That is good coming from one who follows the rest of the sheep on this site.

[sp1814]

AOG

Don't be a sheep. Use your intelligence. The Daily Mail lies about the EU and you take it as fact.

Look at this from April:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2311412/EU-demands-access-British-police-files-Forces-ordered-hand-documents-investigations-face-fines.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

Load of nonsense.

This is the truth from the Head of the Commission's London rep:

The EU is not seeking new powers over Member States for its law enforcement agency Europol (‘EU demands access to British police files’, 19 April).

Member States set up Europol in 1993, to pool resources against major cross-border crime.

There is an existing agreement to supply data to Europol. The European Commission is proposing measures to clarify that and to strengthen democratic oversight and data protection. The aim is to tackle crime better.

The proposal only takes effect if Member States agree. It would not expand access to data on witnesses and victims.

It would not give Europol direct access to national databases – let alone “private police files”. Member States share data they already have, so resources will not be diverted to collecting data for Europol.

Finally, there is nothing in the proposal about fines.

Europol will remain an agency supporting – not usurping – national police forces.

[sp1814]

AOG

Remember when the Daily Mail said that the EU would be barring Famous Five books:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2229022/Now-Brussels-takes-aim-Famous-Five-Books-portraying-traditional-families-barred.html

Another lie.

At the end of the story, the Mail has the temerity to write:

'This is nonsense. "Brussels" has no legal powers to intervene in which books are available in UK schools, it is a matter for the UK and for schools.

'The European Parliament committee report - which anyway represents just the committee's view - does not suggest banning books.

'And even in areas where it does call for EU level action and where that is legally possible, that can only be done if the Commission makes a proposal - it hasn't - and if the European Parliament as a whole and a large majority of member states then adopt it.'

So - why print a story saying that the EU is seeking to bar these books?

And more importantly, why bother linking to stories about the EU in the Daily Mail when the paper has a history of making things up as it goes along?

[jomifl]

Here in the heart of the EU (France) we have one bin for recylables which takes everything except glass and food waste. These Frenchies seem to have a machine that sorts it all since they can't rely on people sorting it properly. I have seen a rabbit hutch complete with straw and rabbit sh1t put in the communal mega recycling bin :o)

[anotheoldgit]

sp1814

/// Don't be a sheep. Use your intelligence. The Daily Mail lies about the EU and you take it as fact.///

I was not referring to past articles, what was in contention was the fact that the Daily Mail has been accused of lying over this latest EU recycling guidance, when it was not, see my 09:22 Thu 17th Oct 2013 post.

[anotheoldgit]

sp1814

http://www.guardianlies.com/Section%203/

I rest my case.

[sp1814]

AOG

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/response-to-a-daily-mail-report-that-weekly-rubbish-collections-will-need-to-be-scrapped-to-meet-eu-regulations

[sp1814]

AOG

As I have said before...you really need to be careful using the Daily Mail as a news source, because it's more of an entertainment website now, with articles about Kim Kardashian's bottom and suchlike.

When it prints a story about the EU, it's almost certain to be cobblers.

[sp1814]

AOG

Remember the Daily Mail story about the EU banning the sale of jam in re-used jars:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2213975/Tradition-selling-jam-used-jars-breaches-EU-health-safety-rules.html

Again - cobblers.

This is the response from the Commission:

Recent media coverage on reusing jars for homemade jams for sale at charity events certainly fired up the imagination of the headline writers: “EU elf ‘n safety tsars ban jam sales at fetes” and “anger spreads over EU fines threat for reusing old jam jars”, “EU fine for homemade jam makers”. This is all completely untrue. There are no EU laws, new or old, which ban re-using old jam jars for fetes. The EU also has no powers to fine people.

There is indeed a body of EU food safety and hygiene legislation – notably so that the UK and other countries can be confident that food imported from or bought elsewhere in the EU is safe and of high quality. But these rules apply only to business operators and not to those preparing food for charity events such as church fetes or school bazaars.

What is more, the rules do not anyway ban re-using clean jam jars: the European Commission is not aware of any risk from chemicals related to this re-use.

[sp1814]

So the question has to be AOG...why do you blindly believe the Daily Mail?

Seriously? How many more times does it have to print nonsense for it's readers to cotton on that they're basically reading The Beano, but with more 'bikini shots'?