Migrants Have Contributed £25Bn To The Economy Since 2000.

[Kromovaracun]

UCL's Center for Research and Analysis of Migration has recently published a long-term study on the economic contribution of immigrants to the UK.

http://www.channel4.com/news/immigration-uk-britain-benefits-contribution-report

Immigrants to the UK since 1999 have been 45% less likely to claim benefits and 3% less likely to live in social housing.

This is not just explainable by immigrants moving to the UK when they are older and more financially stable - immigrants compared to natives of the same age are 21% less likely to receive benefits.

It also found that migrants from outside the EEA tended to claim more in benefits than they claimed in taxes.

Personally, I predict that this report will be ignored by just about everyone in UK politics. The Great Braindead British Public seems allergic to anyone associated with book-learning or academic study.

[Kromovaracun]

Bugger. Didn't see Mikey's post.

I guess it serves me right for using the word "braindead".

[jno]

the figures have obviously been conjured out of nowhere by the Blatantly Biased Chimps.

copyright Baz

[Old_Geezer]

I think the public will prove not foolish enough to agree with the conclusions. There is only so much new speak one can take in before rebelling.

[factor-fiction]

Hi- this earlier thread also covers this
http://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/News/Question1289039.html
I doubt the findings will change many people's minds on this issue.

[factor-fiction]

Sorry, too late- I got distracted making lunch before I submitted

[FredPuli43]

Correct factor: see Old Geezer's post above yours, for a reasoned analysis ! LOL

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2487501/How-migrants-outside-Europe-leave-100billion-hole-public-purse-Amount-taken-benefits-services-14-higher-money-back.html

[FredPuli43]

AOG, your opinion, it seems, is based on a distrust of all foreigners. Is that a fair assessment ? And you will scrabble around to find any scraps that support that view and ignore anything which doesn't.

[craft1948]

The Great Braindead British Public..............thanks.

[humbersloop]

AOG's avatar (again) that flies the union flag the wrong way up Fred, plus Daily Mail reference - what's not to be credible?

[Svejk]


methyl

"It also found that migrants from outside the EEA tended to claim more in benefits than they claimed in taxes."

Is that not the core problem? ///

It certainly is, methyl, because that statement makes no sense.

[FredPuli43]

Sloopy, aren't you too late? Whatever his past avatar, AOG now choses to be seen as, or associated with, John Bull, a character who, in this representation, dates from the 1760s. He is of yeoman stock, and thoroughly English and defiant to all foreigners, who he patently regards as a threat.

I choose to be represented by a Hungarian sheepdog, and a bitch at that. I make no further comment. What the rest of you choose, well, that is for you !

[jno]

Methyl, note the difference between EU and EEA.

How would I know if the people in my corner shop are citizens of the EU? As far as I know they've been here longer than I have.

[Kromovaracun]

craft...

My opinion is that the majority of the British public are stupid, and usually unwilling to actually think. I base this on the interactions I have with people and on the constant stream of evidence that the public continues to think things that are almost certainly wrong. I make no apologies for saying so.

AOG- I guess we have different priorities. I'm willing to have a degree of trust in professional researchers, largely because I know them and I understand the process of peer-review that accompanies research in the social sciences. You're willing to trust the press.

[Svejk]

///Also found that migrants from outside the EEA tended to claim more in benefits than they claimed in taxes.///
Kromovaracun

Did you mean 'more than they PAYED in taxes'
Of course I'm only a member of the GBBP but it would make more sense. ;)

[jake-the-peg]

People are already invested in this debate - research will not change the opinions of those who's mind's are set.

Are we expecting Nigel Farage to issue a press release saying 'Oops sorry you were right I was wrong will disband UKIP this evening'?

So people will just appeal to cynicism and attack the researchers some with clever attacks others will just say 'Ah you can say anything with statistics'

Until the stats reinforce their position!

[Svejk]

I listened to the author of the report on the radio yesterday.
When quizzed on some of his figures he said he had taken into account
that as they got older they would get better, higher paid jobs and therefore
be paying even more in taxes, etc. I'm no professor but I could foresee several
different scenarios, perhaps more likely ones, that he chose to ignore as they didn't fit
in with his agenda.