Guy Fawkes.

[hawksley]

What a pity Guy Fawkes is not around today, 5 November ,to get rid of this shower we have in power today.

[Svejk]

Yes, wharton, I can see a pattern developing here. ;)

[emmie]

there is a pub near to the Tower of London called, Hung, drawn and quartered, interesting name don't you think?

[Wharton]

Is the pattern tartan Svejk? :-)

[emmie]

no, it's the Union Jack, for the time being. Until Alex Salmond gets his way, or not...

[VHG]

So we get rid of this shower (your words) and replace them with....people like Gordon Brown, John Prescott.

Wow what an improvement.

[jeffa]

I think you mean the Union Flag, emmie.

[Wharton]

There's a memorial plaque of Wallace on a wall of St. Bart's Hospital in Smithfield near to where he was murdered.

[emmie]

I still prefer it called the Union Jack, but Union flag if you prefer. If we split from Scotland, let us see what kind of flag we can have, can't be the St Georges cross as we have to consider the others still vaguely in the union.

[Wharton]

emmie's all at sea jeffa :-)

[emmie]

ha ha, murdered, he was considered a traitor, was convicted of High Treason, just like many who the crown considered enemies of the state,

[emmie]

Union Flag
Royal Union Flag
Union Jack The Union Flag: a red cross over combined red and white saltires, all with white borders, over a dark blue background.
Use National flag
Proportion 1:2
Adopted 1801
Design The Cross of Saint Andrew counterchanged with the Cross of Saint Patrick, over all the Cross of Saint George.

The Union Flag, or Union Jack, is the national flag of the United Kingdom. The Union Jack flag also enjoys an official or semi-official status in some Commonwealth realms; for example, it is known by law in Canada as the Royal Union Flag. Further, it is used as an official flag in some of the smaller British overseas territories. The Union Jack also appears in the canton (upper left-hand quarter) of the flags of several nations and territories that were former British colonies.

[Wharton]

//over all the cross of St. George// - just about sums up the English attitude to the rest of the UK.

[FredPuli43]

Let's see. A small group, motivated by a desire to protect their religion, to make it the governing religion of the country, and to overthrow the present regime, decide to blow up Parliament and thereby kill the monarch, the House of Lords, the House of Commons and various Archbishops and Bishops there assembled.

In those days, the terrorists were Roman Catholics.

Hawksley, will you approve if a group of Muslim 'jihadists' do the same now, and for the same reasons ?

[emmie]

if they do i would hope they go the same way as Guido Fawkes, chance would be a fine thing.

[emmie]

the difference surely is they won't be hung, drawn and quartered, more likely either blow themselves to bits, and alongside a lot of innocent men, women and children.

[Wharton]

Let's see. A small minority, motivated by a desire to rid itself of an effete partner in a so-called 'union' decides enough is enough. Roll on September 2014.

[hawksley]

Guy Fawkes, was the only person to go into Parliment with good intentions.

[ichkeria]

I find this support for religious-inspired terrorism against our elected representatives deeply worrying :-)

[hawksley]

Emmie, Illegal wars Argentina ,Thatcher, Bankers Bonus, Thatcher.Greedy MPs Thatcher,Then Bring on The Eton School Boys ,all of them worshiping Thatcher.

[FredPuli43]

Yes, hawksley, but what is your answer to my question?