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Could He Possibly Be Classed As A Racist?

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anotheoldgit | 12:12 Sat 16th Nov 2013 | News
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/// Speaking in a loud voice, - "HE" - gave a short speech, which was greeted with enthusiastic applause. ///

/// He was addressing a meeting in the community centre of Page Hall, a shabby grid of terrace streets in Sheffield, and giving voice to what many in the audience had long thought - but dared not say. ///

/// ‘We want to claim our streets back.///

A speech from the BNP or the EDL perhaps?

No instead of the word "HE" I purposely left out the following description of the speaker, which was as follows:

/// a bearded man in traditional Pakistani garb ///

Could he possibly be classed as a racist?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2508120/Fear-loathing-prejudice-Blunketts-yard-A-deeply-disturbing-dispatch-ex-Labour-Home-Secretary-warns-race-riots-Roma-influx-Sheffield.html
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By "these immigrants" do you mean the Roma, AOG? The tenor of your post suggests , with its reference to the NHS, that you may mean all immigrants, in which case you would wish all immigrants deported , would you?

Or do you pick and choose, so that any immigrant who breaks the law or is, in your judgment, badly behaved and annoying to the rest of us, be deported?
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FredPuli43

/// I chose the very people who were being complained about and Jews. Who would you wish me to choose to avoid being called 'careful' in my choice for comparison? ///

That is the point that I am making, why did you specifically choose to attach dishonest to Jews, and why Jews at all?

Why not Pakistanis, Somalians, Caribbean etc, etc?
The Jews serve as a particularly good example of people who came here and were subjected to the same kind of prejudiced comment we see now being directed at the Roma. They have thrived despite the prejudice and are now a integral part of our society and give much to it. In time the later groups of newcomers will do much the same.
Right...I'm going to give AOG th answer he so desperately needs.

Racism only goes one way. It's only white people who are ever accused of racism, and everything is so unfair.

Muslims get away with murder, as do black people.

White people are not allowed to say anything for fear of being accused of being racist.

Straight people are not allowed to criticise gays in case they are accused of being homophobic.

It's all the fault of the PC brigade.

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FredPuli43

/// By "these immigrants" do you mean the Roma, ///

That would seem obvious to most seeing that it is the Roma immigrants that are under discussion.

But instead of trying to side-step this issue, what should be done about this problem?

You know that you can speak freely seeing that it is only Roma Gypsies and not Muslims or Blacks that are open for criticism.
Oh, nearly forgot...men have it harder than women now because of feminism, and...and...what have I left out? I'm sure there's something else...that's right - handicapped people get the best parking spots at Sainsbury's.

Basically, if you're a white heterosexual British male, you have it all stacked against you.

Fair summary AOG?

I only ask because I want to make sure that you can leave this thread happy in the knowledge that someone has supported every complaint that you have.

If I've missed any out, let me know and I'll post again, to agree with you.
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AOG , I couldn't think of a catch- all adjective or epithet for Pakistanis and the others you now cite. Can you? Jews are dishonest, the Welshman is a thief, but otherwise I failed. The only thing your list has is that all are black or brown but no one insulting adjective fits them specifically. I suppose I could try 'Somalis are pirates' !

Jews here, of course, are white. Do you have a word for them? Or have they no longer the word 'dishonest' associated with them in your mind?
But to be serious - I think the Jewish analogy works (with regards to Jewish people) because it was your generation and generations before yours that were so openly anti-Semitic, and classed Jews as being greedy and disreputable.

From my generation downwards, that ignorance is beginning to fade (thank heavens).

Ok lets mention the Jews in the UK as you carefully decided to mention them

to this day they only number around 350,000
and they didnt come here knowing there were benefits, housing etc etc
and for the most part the vast majority intergrated and anglicised

hardly the ideal group to use really is it
AOG

Seriously - are there any groups I've missed?

You are way better than anyone else on AB at recognising the truth that dare not speak it's name...and I notice that every single question you post is swiftly removed, denying you your voice.

Have you ever thought of complaining to the AB Editor because of his obvious bias? I can see this thread being swiftly removed too.

It's so unfair.

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I am not AOG, but I will answer anyway.

##Racism only goes one way. It's only white people who are ever accused of racism, and everything is so unfair.## Correct!

##Muslims get away with murder, as do black people.## Muslims definitely!

##White people are not allowed to say anything for fear of being accused of being racist.## Correct!

##Straight people are not allowed to criticise gays in case they are accused of being homophobic.## Correct!

##It's all the fault of the PC brigade.'' Correct!

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bazwillrun

That being the case, why were they singled out by the National Front in the 70s?
AOG, I object to any bad behaviour. I suspect that Roma who settle here will learn to fit in,and if any break the law they will learn as quickly as our regular citizens do. If they do persist in breaking the law, they should be sent back. Unfortunately we can't do that with our own persistent offenders
AOG

Yes!!!

How could I have forgotten the 'chip on the shoulder' thing.

What a fool I've been.

I mean, looking back through the last five pages of questions in the News section, I can seen loads of questions raised by me, where I complain about everything being so unfair for black people.

Dammit...your memory is as sharp as your debating skills.

I fold.

But at the back of my mind, I'm sure there's something we've missed.

Ah! Got it...all the best jobs go to non-whites because of positive discrimination.

And women are over-promoted because companies don't want to be regarded as sexist.

And...and...oh come on AOG, wrack your brains...there must be more.

Perhaps if we could get everything into this one thread, in future you could simply post a link back to it and say, "There...that summarises my world view".

Anything about the Irish you'd like to get off your chest? Or university fees in Scotland (apparently the English have to pay).

Oh...and the biggie - black people who dare to call themselves British...almost as if they're white!!!!

That's the motherlode isn't it?
baz, not only were they singled out by the NF in the seventies, but Jews were not allowed in certain golf clubs. We may take it that they had the money, and not from benefits, to do so. Why was that? What was the threat from Jews that so obsessed people? Why were they disliked just for being Jewish, so anti-Semitism was rife in polite society?
SP1814, I think if you change "British" to "English" and add "able-bodied" I think you'd be closer.
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Forgot about being employed too...

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