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Tories Still The Party Of The Rich...its Official Now !

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mikey4444 | 12:21 Wed 20th Nov 2013 | News
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This is from the Guardian today, so I realise that it will have the whiff of brimstone and sulphur to some here on AB. But here goes anyway :::

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/nov/19/tory-nick-boles-party-of-rich

Nick Boles, a Tory MP has committed the political equivalence of farting in Chapel, by suggesting that the only Tory that does have a wider popular appeal is Boris ! Can't see Mr Boles being invited to Number 10's Xmas drinks party now, can you ?
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Can't think of a time when the Tories weren't perceived as the party of the rich, just as Labour was perceived as the party of the working man.

And he's right about Boris Johnson.
'Official'? Where did you dig that up from? He didn't say the Tories are still the party of the rich - he said that's how they're perceived by some - and he's right. Mikey, have you ever considered a career as a spin doctor for Labour?
A country gets rich if top business people create companies that are successful and generate money, and jobs (and pay taxes).

How many jobs do you think Richard Branson has generated in his lifetime?

So if you have successful companies you get rich bosses, nothing wrong with that.

And if the country is rich then you can afford to look after the poor and old and infirm.

That is why I support the Tories, because they try to generate wealth in this country.

But all labour ever seem to do is want to do is tax rich people to drive them out of the country, and give money away to people who make no attempt to work.

Is it any wonder that whenever a Labour party has been in power we have always finished up in a financial mess, which the Tories then have to come in and sort out.

No doubt the British public will get fed up with all this austerity and vote in Labour in the next election, so they can put the country in even more debt.

When you see what has happened to Greece and others you realise how close a country can get to going bankrupt, and we are not that far away from it.

So I am glad we have a party that supports and encourages rich people, because the rich people are the job creators.
//A Conservative minister has warned that his party has failed to dispel the impression that they are "the party of the rich" //

It is true what he says. They are perceived by some in that way. It certainly is not the party of the rich though any more than labour are the party of the working man.

Nothing official at all, what a strange thing to say

If someone could convince me that Labour if they regain power, won't this time, do what they have historically always done which is to bankrupt the Country, I might just have a look/listen to their ideas.
but, there again . . . . it's just not going to happen
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If you don't like the message naomi, why try to shoot the messenger ?

I am merely posting an article that appeared in todays newspaper. I am not sure that the Labour Party is going to need much in the way of help from me, or a spin doctor, as the Tories seem to falling apart at the seams. Teresa May suggested 11 years ago that her party was seen as the Nasty Party but the pointy heads in the party seemed to have learned nothing.

Boris is probably their last chance of victory in 2015. Not another so-called coalition victory but a real, overall majority victory. They have left it a bit late but if they ditched Dave and replaced him Boris, they have a chance of success. But they won't do that of course, so they are facing another 5 years in opposition, as from May 2015.

They elected 4 different leaders in the period of political wilderness between 1997 and 2010. If they lose the 2015 election, which I think highly likely, they will have to get rid of Dave in an inelegant rush. They may as well bite the bullet, risk some short-time chaos, and let him go now.

In his speech, Boles said his perception of the party's image meant that it was hard to sell its core message: "I don't think we have done enough to reassure people about the motives behind economic liberation, that we genuinely believe that you will get better health services or housing or whatever, rather than that our mates who work for private equity will make a ton of money. We have not eradicated that suspicion."

Not sure if there is a cogent answer to that.
Mikey, //If you don't like the message naomi, why try to shoot the messenger ?//

I'm not trying to shoot the messenger - you manage that perfectly well without my help by posting grossly inaccurate messages.
If the Tories are the party of the rich and Labour and I don't mean Nooo labour the party of the working man the what are the Liberals the party of ?.
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B*gger all, I would think tonyav !
Labour are no longer the party of the working man. They are the party of benefit claimants and public sector workers ie people who rely on the the tax payer for money.
Could Boles be a follower of the prince across the water and be paving the way for Boris to try for the leadership?
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dave50...simplistic drivel !

Sandy...prince across the water ? Sorry, I must be missing an allusion here somehow !
I agree with Dave. Labour hasn't been the party of the 'working' man for a very long time - and clinging to rosy memories of past glories won't change it.

Naomi & dave, you're spot-on guys!
I was thinking of the phrase in a leader in waiting kind of way. And it seems there's nothing new under the sun. I've been beaten to it here.
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/10/08/boris-johnson-the-prince-across-the-water-holds-court-in-birmingham_n_1948378.html

The only time some Labour supporters get out of the house, apart from signing on, is to vote for their party, the forming of a cross being within skill-set of most of them!
Now you're being very naughty aren't you Mikey?

Missing out the words 'seen as'?

We'd beat up the Mail readers for that sort of thing

The question is whether one-nation conservatism has been finally killed off or not

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-nation_conservatism

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Jake...I would admit that my post was mainly for some devilment. Why should the DM readers have all the fun !

But its also a serious point. Dave is looking into the barrel of a gun and he doesn't seem to realise it. In days gone by, the "men in grey suits" would have seen all this coming, made Dave fall on his sword, and shoved Boris into position way before this. I am fairly sure that Nick Boles isn't out on a limb here, and he certainly isn't speaking for just himself.

Boris will be a future Tory leader and probably a future PN as well, but not quite yet it would seem.
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Sandy...found this :::

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Prince-Across-Water-Stuart-Quartet/dp/0399238972

Boris is Bonny Prince Charlie it would seem ! Can't imagine him in a kilt though.
he'd wear a monokini if he thought it would get him elected

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