Three More Convicted Of Grooming Girls As Young As 13.

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2518904/3-men-convicted-grooming-girls-Facebook-sex.html

Why when some are addressing a growing concern among our ethnic minorities they first find the need to somehow dilute the facts by also accusing the majority whites?

/// Mr Best said: 'Child sexual exploitation is not a crime that is committed by one ethnic minority group.

'We have done some analysis locally and nationally and it's fair to say the biggest offending group when it comes to child sexual exploitation is white males.

'However with the high profile cases that there have been nationally, there also does appear to be a worrying trend in relation to the number of cases involving Asian males and that needs to be addressed.

'We shouldn't be afraid to say that. ///

Then why doesn't he just come out and say so without first finding the need to involve others?

Seems like he

[anotheoldgit]

emmie

/// It just seems these latest ones involve men from Pakistani backgrounds. If i were a Sikh, Hindu, i wouldn't care to be labelled as just Asians, would you? ///

Good point emmie, this has been mentioned at other times, just another example where some seem afraid to specifically point the finger.

[anotheoldgit]

FredPuli43

/// AOG, ALL squirrels "pinch nuts". The syllogism : All squirrels pinch nuts; This animal is a squirrel; Therefore this animal pinches nuts" is valid. And it is valid if red or grey precedes "squirrels" ///

/// How do you apply that to grooming offences? A syllogism " All grooming offences are by men. Asian males are men. Therefore Asian males commit all grooming offences" ? Not valid. Omit "all" from "grooming offences" and it is closer but still not valid as a syllogism. ///

No that may have satisfied both yours and Andy's reasoning of things but no mine by any stretch of the imagination.

/// " All grooming offences are by men. /// Wrong some have been known to have been committed by women.

/// Asian males are men /// that is only stating the obvious.

/// Therefore Asian males commit all grooming offences" /// Where has anyone, least of all myself has ever said that?

You are just twisting words around, I never said or suggested any of those combinations which you have just made up so as to somehow fit in with your own argument.

[browntrout]

Every day on here we are presented with some horror story or other (usually from the Daily Mail) with a heavy racial aspect. Then the usual suspects line up to give us their entirely predictable opinions. It doesn't matter what the story is, the opinions are always exactly the same. To spare us having to actually read the Mail story couldn't someone just post (at say 9.00am) something along the lines of..............ok guys, I'll kick off today's racial thread. All foreigners should be shot. Discuss.

[emmie]

that hasn;t stopped some Sikh men from exploiting, abusing their women folk, it just isn't in the news as much. However it does seem that it is in the main in these cases Muslim men from Pakistani backgrounds, if they don't value women of any caste think what it could be like to be married off to one.

[emmie]

you obviously don't read the mail, nor indeed read many of the other posts on here, today's has covered Mandela's death, and a variety of other savoury and unsavoury titbits.

[anotheoldgit]

browntrout

So it is now official according to our browntrout, that it is racist to report or discus any crime committed by foreigners.

/// ok guys, I'll kick off today's racial thread. All foreigners should be shot. Discuss. ///

That seems a little harsh, even coming from you.

Perhaps a better campaign would be to encourage "All Foreigners" to cease their criminal activities, then maybe they would keep themselves out of the newspapers.

[browntrout]

emmie,

Whatever other posts are on here the one certainty is that we will have a re-run of the previous day's "foreigners" thread.

[emmie]

but we also have a report on a man who has blood on his hands whichever way one likes to spin it, Mandela, then of course there is the wretched police, plebgate debacle, Lee Rigby murder and the bstards who did it, and the chitter chatter of chatterbank, anything from what one had for breakfast to the latest gossip on who has done what with who

[browntrout]

As a brown trout I am an indigenous species. It's about time someone did something about those rainbow trout coming over here and eating all our flies.

anotheoldgit, I am afraid you are guilty of what you so often rightly accuse others of, twisting what was actually said to something that was clearly not said.

[emmie]

interesting....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_trout

[pixie373]

Aog, it didn't even occur to me before that. So what does
//If a certain squirrel comes and pinches the nuts one has put out for the birds, should not that squirrel be accused in case one is accused of blaming all squirrels.

But in this case it is factually accurate, because all squirrels are the same when it comes to pinching nuts//

actually mean in this context?

[FredPuli43]

AOG, I was merely trying to make some sense of your premiss "all squirrels pinch nuts"; the same question that pixie has just raised. It is easy to make a valid syllogism from it. As I hope I demonstrated, it is not possible to make a valid syllogism from any premiss, whether it is one you would have or not, which leads to a helpful or sound last line and which refers to Asians and sexual grooming. I take it that you agree with that.

So what was the point of the reference to squirrels and nuts ?

[Peter Pedant]

I thought the squirrel analogy was a send-up
You mean he's .... serious ?

[FredPuli43]

Peter, there is a difference between expecting to be taken seriously and being serious, I think. If so , it applies in the instant case.