Yet Another British Soldier Killed.

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2528831/British-soldier-Royal-Engineers-killed-enemy-fire-Kabul.html

One more name to be added to the 446 who have lost their lives in this fruitless exercise.

Why wait another year at the risk of losing even more lives, why can't we pull out now?

[TWR]

We should not have been there in the first place AOG, they will be back to square one when the lads pull out, let the idiots sort their own problems out.

[jno]

soldier goes to war and is killed... it happens, it's part of the job spec. The war was worth fighting (Afghanistan, I mean - not Iraq), but we lost it, mainly because of political failures.

[TWR]

The war was sod all to do with us jno. Typical UK Gov sticking their nose in.

[jno]

9/11 was an attack on all the west, not just the USA. It was worth trying to clear out al-Qaeda and the Taleban for our own sake as well as America's, and we might have succeeded if we hadn't decided to start another war in Iraq at the same time.

[TWR]

If they want to do something constructive Jno, they want to stop these idiots blasting out their hate regime on the streets of the UK, but again, they have not got the balls to do / say anything. " The Kettle is Boiling"

[jno]

that wasn't a problem at the time.

[ToraToraTora]

It's not a war any way, we are not fighting for survival, we are just trying to help. How have we lost it jno? your anti British Bull knows no bounds. We went in to help to try and create a safer country, we helped a bit but the place is never going to be civilised the whole sh1th0le is not worth a light.

[jno]

we aren't there as peacekeepers, of course we're fighting, we went there to fight, and we haven't won, so we've lost. Draws only happen in sports.

Nothing to do with being anti-British. I wanted us to win.

There's a decent analysis of the mess here

https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/magazine/the-case-for-an-afghanistan-inquiry-bronwen-maddox-iraq-opium-helmand-cost-achievement/

[EcclesCake]

The reason we can't pack up and go home now is because there is an awful lot of equipment, vehicles, infrastructure etc to be returned to the UK. All of which is underway and has been for many months and will take many more.

[murraymints]

Says it all...

[ToraToraTora]

sorry when did the Taliban take over our government?

[lady-janine]

wonder if those murderers will get 10 years in prison.

[youngmafbog]

447 in 12 years, hardly a massive number for a war. There are far worst occupations with higher death rates but they are never mentioned.

Having said that we should proceed as fast as possible to get out, but get out safely, we don want the last 1000 being annihilated do we?

[anotheoldgit]

EcclesCake

/// The reason we can't pack up and go home now is because there is an awful lot of equipment, vehicles, infrastructure etc to be returned to the UK. All of which is underway and has been for many months and will take many more. ///

That is a logistic operation that can be carried out in the reasonable safety of Camp Bastion, so why are we still patrolling, and putting more lives at risk?

[anotheoldgit]

youngmafbog

/// 447 in 12 years, hardly a massive number for a war. There are far worst occupations with higher death rates but they are never mentioned. ///

Try telling that to the families of those 447 lost souls, have you no feelings and do you hold life so cheaply?

That is simply disgusting, and I feel ashamed to class you a fellow rightie.

[OILhead]

Each death is one too many, but to follow up on YMB point - this is an average of 37 soldiers a year dying - in 2011 -12, 49 people working in construction in the UK were killed and 33 working in agriculture which proportionately makes agriculture the most dangerous profession.

http://www.farmersguardian.com/home/latest-news/farming-has-highest-occupational-death-rate-figures-reveal/48157.article

[jno]

something like 380,000 British troops died in WW2; thank goodness nobody was starting a thread for each one of them. At least the present crop are volunteers who chose to take the risks.

[jno]

TTT, you seem to be under the illusion that wars only happen when someone invades Britain.

Actually, they're almost entirely when we invade other people. Here's the list of the 22 countries Britain hasn't invaded (yet):

http://mentalfloss.com/article/13019/there-are-only-22-countries-world-british-haven%E2%80%99t-invaded

[ChillDoubt]

I fully expect Afghanistan to return to the relative Stone Age within 12 months of NATO troops leaving there.

RIP Sapper.

[EcclesCake]

AOG, patrols by UK forces are a rare thing these days as we have largely handed over that responsibility to the ANA. I suspect there may be more to this than initially meets the eye.