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Is The Nhs On The Brink Of Extinction?
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" One thing that seems common is that management have been allowed to build mini empire without control. There is far too much management overhead and most have no medical knowledge. The NHS actually needs a budget cut, but not for doctors and nurses but to trim the excessive fat off the Management."
This is key, and has long been recognised as a problem by clinical staff. It is a problem that refuses to go away. With every re-organisation that the NHS is put through, top down or otherwise, the management/administration only seems to get more bloated, not less.
Not quite sure what roles you feel women should be restricted to in healthcare, Sqad?
" One thing that seems common is that management have been allowed to build mini empire without control. There is far too much management overhead and most have no medical knowledge. The NHS actually needs a budget cut, but not for doctors and nurses but to trim the excessive fat off the Management."
This is key, and has long been recognised as a problem by clinical staff. It is a problem that refuses to go away. With every re-organisation that the NHS is put through, top down or otherwise, the management/administration only seems to get more bloated, not less.
Not quite sure what roles you feel women should be restricted to in healthcare, Sqad?
naomi....joking?...I was answering ann's post in which she asked if i was "joking."
For many years — until the Sixties — fewer than 10 per cent of British doctors were female. Then things changed. For the past four decades about 60 per cent of students selected for training in UK medical schools have been female.
There is another important issue. Women in hospital medicine tend to avoid the more demanding specialities which require greater commitment, have more antisocial working hours and include responsibility for management.
They tend to go for the “soft options”...general practice, “Well baby Clinic” etc etc, then have their babies and then retire early and is thus a drian on the NHS.
In the under 30’s, there are now more women than men.
Indeed, in this age group, 61 per cent of doctors are now women and 39 per cent men.
In the age group 30 to 50 years, over the same period, the number of female doctors increased by 24 per cent compared with 2 per cent for males. In this age group, men still outnumber women by 54 per cent to 46 per cent — but that ratio will soon reverse.
Just my opinion.
For many years — until the Sixties — fewer than 10 per cent of British doctors were female. Then things changed. For the past four decades about 60 per cent of students selected for training in UK medical schools have been female.
There is another important issue. Women in hospital medicine tend to avoid the more demanding specialities which require greater commitment, have more antisocial working hours and include responsibility for management.
They tend to go for the “soft options”...general practice, “Well baby Clinic” etc etc, then have their babies and then retire early and is thus a drian on the NHS.
In the under 30’s, there are now more women than men.
Indeed, in this age group, 61 per cent of doctors are now women and 39 per cent men.
In the age group 30 to 50 years, over the same period, the number of female doctors increased by 24 per cent compared with 2 per cent for males. In this age group, men still outnumber women by 54 per cent to 46 per cent — but that ratio will soon reverse.
Just my opinion.
sqad, I know you were answering anne, but I was asking for an answer to my question. Anyway, that aside, now I'm really confused. You say you want to restrict the role women play in the NHS, and then go on to complain that women choose the 'soft' options. So which roles would you like to restrict them to?
Women are definitely under-represented in surgical roles, despite being in the majority throughout medical college. I think the statistic for female consultant surgeons was as low as 8% in the NHS, which is pretty dire.
Nobody seems entirely sure why this is, although several theories have been put forward.
Given that we have an acute shortage of GPs though, any move to curtail the number of medical students would probably not be a particularly good idea, unless we are planning a very large proportion of our docs in the future? :)
Nobody seems entirely sure why this is, although several theories have been put forward.
Given that we have an acute shortage of GPs though, any move to curtail the number of medical students would probably not be a particularly good idea, unless we are planning a very large proportion of our docs in the future? :)
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