Freddie Starr: Third Arrest Over Alleged Sexual Offences

[ChillDoubt]

Just flashed up on the Sky News alert app.
At this rate and for him to be arrested on the day that all the other household names appeared in court one does wonder if he'll actually be able to get a fair trial, if he is indeed ever charged!

[anotheoldgit]

Steve.5

/// Bill Roache, I knew there was something fishy about him ; ///

Well done Steve, you came in with your wit at precisely the perfect moment.

[andy-hughes]

AOG - yes indeed, thanks for a spirited exchange of views.

Steve - do you think this thread is an appropriate place for such 'wit'?

[FredPuli43]

Her testimony was "he pulled her 'roughly' by the arm in the direction of a men's toilet" ?

Well that certainly supports a claim of 'asking for it' ! Great mitigation. Clear evidence of contributory negligence or behaviour on her part. And people on here are arguing whether the toilet , where she was led 'roughly' was for men or for women ?

A man intent upon sexual assault might not care which it was, but should have the common sense not to take a teenage girl into the ladies' . Somebody might notice any bloke, never mind a famous one, in the ladies, and point out his error, not to mention report anything else untoward. If he chooses the men's a) he has an excuse for being there b) it puts the girl in the wrong; whatever happens, she is in there, so "she must have consented"..If Mr Roache is guilty, it won't be for lack of premeditation.

[Zeuhl]

Wasn't the Rovers Return Gents Toilet in his living room anyway?

[andres]

Why on earth ,after all that allegedly happened did she leave her address for Roache and after getting a letter from him go back to see him later that year?

[ummmm]

Because she was 14 and a bit naive.

[pixie373]

Sorry, aog, just come back to it. We were teenagers, 15ish? Wild guess around '89.

[andres]

Naïve enough to make a two buses journey from Haslingden to Granada studios!

[ummmm]

Obviously. That's why there are laws in place to protect children.

[pixie373]

What's your point, andres? That a 14 year old should know what she's asking for?

[andres]

Just merely pointing out that not all 14 years old girls were 'naive' ,even way back then.

[jackthehat]

Someone else blaming the victims........niiiiice.........

[pixie373]

She's a child, so it would be wrong even if she had consented. I don't think an adult male should be more naive than a 14 year old girl.

[andy-hughes]

AOG - just to conclude our debate about the facts of the case - I heard on P.M. on Radio Four last night that William Roache is accused of two separate incidents involving toilets at Granada studios - one in which he forced a fourteen-year-old girl into the Gents and made her perform a sex act on him, and one where he followed another female into the Ladies toilet, so it seems we both had factors of the same case.

We await further developments.

[sir.prize]

Meanwhile . . . Plod still hasn't charged Freddie Starr!

[mikey4444]

I'm not sure why Starr hasn't been charged ? The Police have had ample time to investigate and bring charges. I am not a fan of Starr in any shape or form and if he is guilty of any offences, he should feel the full force of the law.

But to dangle him on a piece of string for so long doesn't seem entirely fair to me. All those others arrested at about the same time are now in court, most of them this week it would seem.

What is Mr Plod doing ?

[sir.prize]

mikey - Plod works in mysterious ways. When they arrested Jimmy Tarbuck they kept it quiet for two weeks until a newspaper unearthed the news. And they still havent charged him after 9 months. Wonder why?

[mikey4444]

Sir.prize...I wish I had your confidence about Plod working in these mysterious ways....I have a distinct feeling that all these sexual abuses cases are swamping poor Mr Plod.

Only yesterday it was reported that a serious case of peodphilia was uncovered in Peterborough. I heard a lady being interviewed on the PM Program yesterday afternoon who said that this case was only one of many in the Peterborough area itself alone, and that child sexual abuse was endemic across the UK. There appears to be a tidal wave of it sweeping over Britain. This is going to run and run I'm afraid, so Mr Plod may well need to recruit many more staff, just to deal with this one category of crime.

I wonder how that is going to work in a time of wide-spread savage cuts in public expenditure ?

[sir.prize]

Very true mikey - a lot of it about . . .

https://www.google.co.uk/#q=police+officer+on+sex+charges

[sir.prize]

Mr Plod is very busy in his own backyard then

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/361107/Child-porn-and-brothels-Corrupt-police-officers-commit-nearly-200-crimes-in-three-years