Unjustice For Defending His Business!!!!!

[trt]

I just hope he gets off as he sounds like a good honest guy, and the two idiots only get a £75 fine, plus 2 broken legs and an arm :-)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2544030/Businessman-attacks-two-burglars-catching-red-handed-arrested-defending-property.html

[Gromit]

There are some wonderful pictures with that article.

There is the 'businessman' in his Harley Davidson T-Shirt looking ridiculous. Then further down, a picture of one of the accused/victims posing with a fish. Both are funny pictures.

I speculate that there is a bit of inbreeding in that part of the country.

[baza]

two against one, and then the old bill charge him, what a miscarriage of justice. The scumbags cop a small fine and I will lay odds it's not their first crime.

[ELVIS68]

That's what you call taking the piss.

He should've shot the thieving bastards

[Canary42]

Yes, he went over the top, but bearing in mind the sentences the thugs got, he should get something like 3 months SUSPENDED for 6 weeks (i.e. he has to serve the sentence if he re-offends within six weeks).

[jake-the-peg]

Sorry I'm afraid I am struggling to see how breaking two legs and an arm is self defence!

Maybe someone could enlighten me

Was he standing there with his fencepost terrified that a man with a pair of broken legs was about to bite him?

[emmie]

he wouldn't have known that he had caused those injuries, if he clouted the bloke numerous times, personally i would give him a medal, they are robbers, are you supposed to sit by and let them rob you.

[emmie]

from the link

'He showed stoicism, courage and fitness to chase them. One of the men was armed and went to attack him. He acted in lawful self-defence.

[youngmafbog]

2 to 1 Jake, and clearly they stood for the fight or one would have got away. I wonder what you would have done with 2 - 1? do you have a business to defend or do you sit in a cush Government office ?

There is no justice in this country, your home is not your castle it is for every piece of scum that wants a piece of it.

£75 fine, I am sure that will be more than covered by the compo claims.

Country has gone to the dogs (well criminals)

[Sqad]

\\ do you have a business to defend or do you sit in a cush Government office ? \\

Jake's idea of a small business is one that should be "wound up" if it couldn't afford to absorb the proposed rise in the minimum wage, so he would be completely confused by the fact that burglars stealing, repeatedly, his diesel and other items would have any effect on his business.

I would guess that Jake had never had a small business.....just a guess.

[LazyGun]

The Law seems pretty reasonable to me, in terms of what constitutes an acceptable response, level of violence employed.

http://www.cps.gov.uk/publications/prosecution/householders.html

From the press report, it seems that the injuries were inflicted whilst Mr. Woodhouse was chasing the intruders.

From the CPS guidelines,
"What if I chase them as they run off?
This situation is different as you are no longer acting in self-defence and so the same degree of force may not be reasonable. However, you are still allowed to use reasonable force to recover your property and make a citizen's arrest. You should consider your own safety and, for example, whether the police have been called. A rugby tackle or a single blow would probably be reasonable. Acting out of malice and revenge with the intent of inflicting punishment through injury or death would not."

You could rightly question whether 2 broken legs and a broken arm constitutes reasonable force when chasing intruders, rather than defending oneself from attack.

For those of you who are questioning whether this householder has been treated fairly, what level of injury inflicted upon the intruders running away would you consider unacceptable, if any?

[emmie]

one was armed, with what?

[AB Editor]

This is one of those things where I swing quite far to the "right" politically. Malicious trespassing should be met with violence - and that violence should have limited repercussions on the land owner.

[mallyh]

he should be given a medal .

[emmie]

i wouldn't have cared had both ended up in hospital, robbers don't deserve out compassion. Having been burgled, and mugged several times, one i caught having chased her down the street, she dipped my bag in a pub, i came close to committing GBH and told her so.

[pixie373]

My OH caught a burglar in our garage carrying things out years ago. He sat on him and rang the police. When they came to do a report, they were very careful how they worded it, making sure they put OH felt "threatened". They said if they didn't, OH could be in trouble- even though the burglar wasn't hurt. So there seems to be very little you can do.
In this case, it does sound like he went a bit over the top, but i have no sympathy for the burglars.

[Sqad]

Lazygun

"Hard and fast rules" in these sort of situations are not necessarily applicable and each case should be assessed on it's merits.

Chasing an verbally chastising a youth who had pinched your wallet might be appropriate, but someone who you had chases after appointing your wife might merit a more physical response.

This guy was clearly p1ssed off by being robbed repeatedly and responded with what i consider to be a human response.

Clearly your response would be more...."considered."

[aelmpvw]

i wouldn't mind betting that the fines will deducted from their benefits so we'll be paying those as well

[emmie]

who cares, he should get off.