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Somali Community Protest Over Lesbian Adoption.
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There are many questions to be asked over this, including,
Were the council right in their decision to allow a non Muslim couple to adopt this child?
Was it just infuriating the issue further by choosing a lesbian couple?
Was it right to stage an on the street protest instead of the usual way of writing an official complaint?
Why are ethnic minorities less likely to become adoption parents?
There are many questions to be asked over this, including,
Were the council right in their decision to allow a non Muslim couple to adopt this child?
Was it just infuriating the issue further by choosing a lesbian couple?
Was it right to stage an on the street protest instead of the usual way of writing an official complaint?
Why are ethnic minorities less likely to become adoption parents?
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Adoptions and fostering should always ignore religious concerns. A 12 month old baby is not christian, muslim or hindu, it is nothing.
If by whatever criteria, a lesbian couple turn out to be the most suitable adoptors, then so be it. Their sexuality, religion, colour should not come into it, the childs welfare should be paramount.
The Somali women (there doesn't look like 50 of them in the photo) are wasting their time. The law has been followed and the adoption is totally legal.
Adoptions from the Somali community are probably due to poverty. These immigrants are likely to be in poor jobs working long hours, and just upbringing their own children will be difficult. Adoptors tend to have good jobs and enough wealth to pay for a childs upkeep.
If by whatever criteria, a lesbian couple turn out to be the most suitable adoptors, then so be it. Their sexuality, religion, colour should not come into it, the childs welfare should be paramount.
The Somali women (there doesn't look like 50 of them in the photo) are wasting their time. The law has been followed and the adoption is totally legal.
Adoptions from the Somali community are probably due to poverty. These immigrants are likely to be in poor jobs working long hours, and just upbringing their own children will be difficult. Adoptors tend to have good jobs and enough wealth to pay for a childs upkeep.
AOG
Just a quick point that should clear up the question if ethnic minority adoption. There are a large percentage of black and Asian families who are working class. Black and Asian Middle class families are growing, but in terms of demographics, their numbers are relatively few.
Adopting a child is a lifetime commitment, something that is financially draining. This is why you don't see many working class families, of whatever racial background adopting. It's more common amongst middle class families.
However, the picture isn't the same when you look at black foster families, where the challenges of making a home for troubled children is that much greater.
Just a quick point that should clear up the question if ethnic minority adoption. There are a large percentage of black and Asian families who are working class. Black and Asian Middle class families are growing, but in terms of demographics, their numbers are relatively few.
Adopting a child is a lifetime commitment, something that is financially draining. This is why you don't see many working class families, of whatever racial background adopting. It's more common amongst middle class families.
However, the picture isn't the same when you look at black foster families, where the challenges of making a home for troubled children is that much greater.
Were the council right in their decision to allow a non Muslim couple to adopt this child?
When it is in the interests of the child that they should be adopted, then it should be as soon as possible, to the first couple that can offer a loving and supportive home. Their sexual orientation should have nothing to do with it. And you can make an strong argument that a child born to muslim parent(s) is not automatically muslim anyway. I would argue that a child should get to choose their own religion ( or none) when they are old enough to decide for themselves.
Was it just infuriating the issue further by choosing a lesbian couple?
No. Gender orientation should be neither here nor there. Is the prospective couple stable, law-abiding, able to provide for themselves and any children they adopt, and most important of all - able to demonstrate a loving,caring and supportive nature.
Was it right to stage an on the street protest instead of the usual way of writing an official complaint?
It is a free country. They are entitled to demonstrate however they want, provided it is subject to the usual rules of law ie not some rampaging or violent mob.
Why are ethnic minorities less likely to become adoption parents
Don't know. Are they less likely?
When it is in the interests of the child that they should be adopted, then it should be as soon as possible, to the first couple that can offer a loving and supportive home. Their sexual orientation should have nothing to do with it. And you can make an strong argument that a child born to muslim parent(s) is not automatically muslim anyway. I would argue that a child should get to choose their own religion ( or none) when they are old enough to decide for themselves.
Was it just infuriating the issue further by choosing a lesbian couple?
No. Gender orientation should be neither here nor there. Is the prospective couple stable, law-abiding, able to provide for themselves and any children they adopt, and most important of all - able to demonstrate a loving,caring and supportive nature.
Was it right to stage an on the street protest instead of the usual way of writing an official complaint?
It is a free country. They are entitled to demonstrate however they want, provided it is subject to the usual rules of law ie not some rampaging or violent mob.
Why are ethnic minorities less likely to become adoption parents
Don't know. Are they less likely?
LazyGun
I think that race is a red herring in terms of adoption. I have literally never heard of a working class family adopting a child they were not related to. I think that finance is a bigger driver to adoption.
By the way, I think it was you who posted a link to Flat Earth News some time late last year.
May I take this opportunity to thank you. I bought the book 'Flat Earth News' by Nick Davies, and it is by FAR the most interesting book I've ever read about the British newspaper industry.
It has literally opened my eyes...!
If it wasn't you - then I withdraw my thanks.
I think that race is a red herring in terms of adoption. I have literally never heard of a working class family adopting a child they were not related to. I think that finance is a bigger driver to adoption.
By the way, I think it was you who posted a link to Flat Earth News some time late last year.
May I take this opportunity to thank you. I bought the book 'Flat Earth News' by Nick Davies, and it is by FAR the most interesting book I've ever read about the British newspaper industry.
It has literally opened my eyes...!
If it wasn't you - then I withdraw my thanks.
The women should be told in very clear terms that they are living in a secular democracy that has chosen to not discriminate on the grounds of a adult sexual preference.
While they have the democratic right to protest is would be against the law for authorities to accede to their wishes.
If they would prefer to live in a society where such prejudices are allowed then they are welcome to do so by returning to their country of origin.
While they have the democratic right to protest is would be against the law for authorities to accede to their wishes.
If they would prefer to live in a society where such prejudices are allowed then they are welcome to do so by returning to their country of origin.
a number of London councils advertised for adoptive parents, posters on public transport, citing black families only for black children, surely we have got past that nonsense. Seeing as how many black, asian children will end up waiting in care for loving homes, why don't they drop their stance and let whoever will care, love them adopt.
sp1814
/// Adopting a child is a lifetime commitment, something that is financially draining. This is why you don't see many working class families, of whatever racial background adopting. It's more common amongst middle class families. ///
I think that you are wrong when you state that there are not many 'working class' families adopting or even fostering, there are many white families that take on those responsibilities but alas not many from the black and Asian communities.
/// However, the picture isn't the same when you look at black foster families, where the challenges of making a home for troubled children is that much greater. ///
I am not quite sure what you are saying here, but if it is what I think you are saying, not all children put up for adoption are 'troubled' children regardless of the colour of their skin.
/// Adopting a child is a lifetime commitment, something that is financially draining. This is why you don't see many working class families, of whatever racial background adopting. It's more common amongst middle class families. ///
I think that you are wrong when you state that there are not many 'working class' families adopting or even fostering, there are many white families that take on those responsibilities but alas not many from the black and Asian communities.
/// However, the picture isn't the same when you look at black foster families, where the challenges of making a home for troubled children is that much greater. ///
I am not quite sure what you are saying here, but if it is what I think you are saying, not all children put up for adoption are 'troubled' children regardless of the colour of their skin.
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