Welfare Cuts A Digrace

[DrFilth]

does anybody know a person who is now better off ?

> Universal Credit making three million households better
and lifting hundreds of thousands of children out of poverty. <



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/10639015/New-Cardinal-Vincent-Nichols-welfare-cuts-frankly-a-disgrace.html

[Zacs-Master]

I don't know Dr F, but I can't believe the temerity of The head of the Catholic Church thinking he can take the moral high ground on any subject when his own 'organisation' is so riddled with bad practise.

[DrFilth]

when people have no money they are unable to put in the collection box or tray

talking of money have to go as i have no data credit left

[Zacs-Master]

You really need to get on a new tariff DrF.

[New Judge]

I had hoped that the idea of the reforms was not to make anybody better off (other than the taxpayer) but to simplify the ridiculously complex welfare system, save on administration and generally cut the welfare bill. I doubt that any of those aims will be realised, but I thought that was the idea.

As for meddlesome priests pontificating on matters that do not concern them, they should mind their own business, concentrate on preaching to their flock and try to prevent many of their number from interfering with children.

[ToraToraTora]

Why should scroungers be better off?

So giving less free money out is a disgrace is it? I work hard for what I get and I welcome any initiative to give less of it to WSC. On the rock and roll are we? want more of my cash to spend on funny fags and booze do we? get a job mate.

Have you seen benefits street? if anything they are over paid.

[Unsureme]

Not all people on Benefits are scroungers,TTT,in a lot of cases there are no jobs for these people who want to work. As an aside,you say you work hard,in a Bank I think,so how are you posting on here MOST of the day? You must have a pretty cushy job.

[DrFilth]

> On the rock and roll are we? <
no r1 i am not

> want more of my cash to spend on funny fags and booze do we? get a job mate. <

i pay tax r1 and do not get a single penny in benefit i also do not drink

> Have you seen benefits street? <

no r1 i have not

most of the people who get benefits r1 are workers or oap's

[ToraToraTora]

It seems I have a fan, if you monitor me unsure then you will notice long periods with no activity. You see although I work in a bank I am not a banker, I have a highly skilled specialist function which means I work odd hours.. and yes I get a huge bonus and salary.

[whiskeryron]

//
ToraToraTora
It seems I have a fan, if you monitor me unsure then you will notice long periods with no activity. You see although I work in a bank I am not a banker, I have a highly skilled specialist function which means I work odd hours.. and yes I get a huge bonus and salary.//

Touche TTT.

WR.

[anotheoldgit]

/// does anybody know a person who is now better off ? ///

Yes these.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2559776/This-week-Eurocrat-told-Britain-benefit-tourism-myth-read-Rudi-huge-Romanian-family-say-new-home-Your-benefits-crazy-Its-like-finding-sackful-cash-left-road.html

[DrFilth]

aog i was thinking of a normal british family or single person and from your link it says he works and also note > his huge Romanian family <

> The £300 Rudi receives each week is made up of housing benefit, to cover his £500 a month rent (the house is owned by a private landlord), and he also receives tax credits (paid weekly or monthly) because his self-employed income is so low. <

proves my point about most benefits goes to working people or oap's



can you find me a link to a single person born and bred here who is now better off ?

[DrFilth]

Zacs-Master unable to sign for a tarif as i have lost the house and have to get out so i use a dongle with prepaid credit

[ToraToraTora]

I don't understand why you think people getting state handouts should be better off.

[mikey4444]

I am not a Christian but as regards peoples offensive remarks about Cardinal Vincent, what would Jesus have done ?

[albaqwerty]

ooooh, state handouts? really??

Some folk have worked for years building banks, job centres and other office places. the companies go bust, the trades-people are made redundant, so therefore have to apply for state handouts (tut!)

I wish a load of banked and politicos would try to survive on a state handout.

[naomi24]

Mikey, I can't see any offensive remarks.

As a representative of the unimaginably wealthy Roman Catholic church, I really don't think he has room to criticise.

[naomi24]

//what would Jesus have done ? //

He'd probably have said "The poor you will always have with you", or words to that effect, and left it at that.

[mikey4444]

It was this that I had in mind naomi ::

"As for meddlesome priests pontificating on matters that do not concern them, they should mind their own business, concentrate on preaching to their flock and try to prevent many of their number from interfering with children"

Hardly a very polite thing to say about a senior religious leader. My understand of being brought up as a Catholic in the 50's and 60's was that that Jesus was on the side of the poor and oppressed.

[naomi24]

Oh, I see. Nothing wrong with that. Why should a priest be immune from criticism? If he's so concerned about the poor perhaps he should advise the pope to get the auctioneers into the Vatican and all the other churches dripping in untold wealth - and distribute the proceeds.