Now They Are Reviewing Sentence......

[ToraToraTora]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-dorset-26354079
How long should the savage get?
How long should the savage actually serve in one of HM holiday camps?

[ToraToraTora]

all I'm saying is that it was not his best punch, he thought it was. Not often have I needed support from jake but he would understand. I have on occasion hit people hard yes but always after a block to end the situation, I have studied shotokan, Shorinji Kempo and Judo (not to mention Rugby!)they are generally defensive when in a non competitive situation. The victim was weak and mentally ill, had his left hand in his pocket, he was thumped and hit his head on the road. Yes I take your point about the guys in drag, but they at least were responding to somthing.

[emmie]

so what do you think he should have got.

[ToraToraTora]

as I said above he should serve 10years. I agree with your evaluation, it was a nasty strike on a mentally ill unfit, unprepared man, meant to do damage. I just get annoyed at all this "killed with single punch" BS.

[emmie]

i agree.

[andy-hughes]

TTT - "I just get annoyed at all this "killed with single punch" BS."

I think the finer points of martial arts techniques are somewhat irrelavent in this discussion - don't you?

[askyourgran]

Nasty people who cannot control themselves should be given long sentences not just a slap on the wrist. Fraudsters get four years for taking money. Taking a life should mean taking the offenders life.

[Brinjal]

4 years is what a young lad got recently in Australia for a one punch death. They are wanting to bring a mandatory 8 year sentence for similar assaults

[ludwig]

He attacked someone and killed them. Two years (that's what it is, not 4) isn't enough. I'd like to see him stay in prison for at least 5 years.

[emmie]

i would make it ten, but it's not our call.

[ToraToraTora]

"TTT may well be the world's greatest living martial arts expert but what's that got to do with anything. " - nah I've only been talking about novice stuff.

[FredPuli43]

It depends what actually killed the man, the punch or the hitting the head on the ground, and what the state of the victim's skull was e.g. 'eggshell' or normal. If the man had got up and lived, without serious consequences to his health, what offence would it be? ABH ? Had the prosecution got evidence that the defendant intended to cause grievous bodily harm, they would have charged this as murder. The defendant could not be said to have foreseen that death would occur. That the victim had Asperger's is irrelevant, unless there was evidence that he was chosen as a victim because of it, but don't expect the Daily Mail to miss a chance to use emotive detail in a story :)

I'd be surprised if the A-G applied to increase it; he might as a sop to those demanding it; or succeeded if there was an application. The man might have got 5 years, unappealable, but the A-G would need to be thinking of far more than that to succeed

[FredPuli43]

Incidentally, it is a pity to see the BBC dragging in irrelevancies about Asperger's.

[FredPuli43]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2568257/Legal-bid-overturn-joke-four-year-sentence-handed-thug-killed-vulnerable-man-just-one-punch.html

There's the Daily Mail version

[anotheoldgit]

sp1814

/// It takes sheer bad luck to turn someone from 'a bit of a hero' into a savage. ///

You are not in anyway suggesting that this killer was a bit of a hero, until the sheer bad luck that his victim was unfortunate enough to die?

/// Also, it helps if...well, you know...///

Is "you are black" the words you are looking for?