Am I Right To Be Feeling This Way?
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What Is The Most Appropriate Way To Mark The Death Of Fred Phelps?
Fred Phelps is reportedly 'close to death'.
There will be people who celebrate the demise of this man. Some may even use the opportunity to get 'payback', due to the hurt and pain the WBC have inflicted on others at their lowest ebb (picketing funerals etc).
Me, I think the best response is to completely ignore his death, and take the high road...but I will admit that I won't be shedding any tears, and vaguely hope that his last few days on Earth are filled with pain.
There will be people who celebrate the demise of this man. Some may even use the opportunity to get 'payback', due to the hurt and pain the WBC have inflicted on others at their lowest ebb (picketing funerals etc).
Me, I think the best response is to completely ignore his death, and take the high road...but I will admit that I won't be shedding any tears, and vaguely hope that his last few days on Earth are filled with pain.
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Send him on his way with a Marrow up his bum ! Might put a smile on his face when he realises what he has been missing :-))
13:32 Mon 17th Mar 2014
AOG
Do you not know about Fred Phelps and his church?
I didn't mention anything to do with gays. He caused upset to many people - such as the families of fallen servicemen and even went so far as to picket the funeral of Paul Walker and the victims of Hurricane Sandy and the Sandy Hook.
You, however, are engineering this thread to your own ends.
Do you not know about Fred Phelps and his church?
I didn't mention anything to do with gays. He caused upset to many people - such as the families of fallen servicemen and even went so far as to picket the funeral of Paul Walker and the victims of Hurricane Sandy and the Sandy Hook.
You, however, are engineering this thread to your own ends.
From the article:
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A Kansas gay rights group on Sunday urged the gay community to respect the privacy of the “notoriously anti-LGBT” pastor if his health is declining.
Phelps and the members of his church have “harassed” the grieving families of lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender Kansans and others, Thomas Witt, executive director of Equality Kansas, said in a prepared statement.
But Witt asked everyone to let Phelps’ family and friends mourn in peace.
“This is our moment as a community to rise above the sorrow, anger, and strife he sowed,” Witt wrote, “and to show the world we are caring and compassionate people who respect the privacy and dignity of all.”
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And, I think, that is the right response.
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A Kansas gay rights group on Sunday urged the gay community to respect the privacy of the “notoriously anti-LGBT” pastor if his health is declining.
Phelps and the members of his church have “harassed” the grieving families of lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender Kansans and others, Thomas Witt, executive director of Equality Kansas, said in a prepared statement.
But Witt asked everyone to let Phelps’ family and friends mourn in peace.
“This is our moment as a community to rise above the sorrow, anger, and strife he sowed,” Witt wrote, “and to show the world we are caring and compassionate people who respect the privacy and dignity of all.”
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And, I think, that is the right response.
sp1814
/// Do you not know about Fred Phelps and his church? ///
Like most, only from what I have read since you entered this thread
/// I didn't mention anything to do with gays. He caused upset to many people - such as the families of fallen servicemen and even went so far as to picket the funeral of Paul Walker and the victims of Hurricane Sandy and the
Sandy Hook. ///
Perhaps you did not actually mention gays but we all know why you entered this thread, because obviously you are primary interested in gay issues.
I think jim360 set out the main facts in his 13:29 Mon 17th Mar 2014 post, which has he admitted were taken from the article.
/// You, however, are engineering this thread to your own ends. ///
If by singularly mentioning the abuse of gays in Africa, yes I hold my hands up, but I don't think a single passing comment is in any stretch of the imagination "engineering this thread" only in your own mind perhaps.
One could also say the same regarding yourself, by entering this thread for your own ends.
/// Do you not know about Fred Phelps and his church? ///
Like most, only from what I have read since you entered this thread
/// I didn't mention anything to do with gays. He caused upset to many people - such as the families of fallen servicemen and even went so far as to picket the funeral of Paul Walker and the victims of Hurricane Sandy and the
Sandy Hook. ///
Perhaps you did not actually mention gays but we all know why you entered this thread, because obviously you are primary interested in gay issues.
I think jim360 set out the main facts in his 13:29 Mon 17th Mar 2014 post, which has he admitted were taken from the article.
/// You, however, are engineering this thread to your own ends. ///
If by singularly mentioning the abuse of gays in Africa, yes I hold my hands up, but I don't think a single passing comment is in any stretch of the imagination "engineering this thread" only in your own mind perhaps.
One could also say the same regarding yourself, by entering this thread for your own ends.
Baldric
/// and I can just imagine the fuss you would have made should someone else have done it! ///
No I generally leave that to others, those who seem to take a specific delight in such things, in the past I have only reciprocated against those who spend their time looking for the tiniest of errors, although they fail to spot all the spelling mistakes that take place, unless of course it is AOG who has made them.
/// and I can just imagine the fuss you would have made should someone else have done it! ///
No I generally leave that to others, those who seem to take a specific delight in such things, in the past I have only reciprocated against those who spend their time looking for the tiniest of errors, although they fail to spot all the spelling mistakes that take place, unless of course it is AOG who has made them.
I've known about the Phelps family for years. Not the most pleasant knowledge, to be fair. Really, the WBC is not "anti-gay" so much as "anti-humanity". Homosexuality received a huge amount of their hate, but it ran so much deeper than that -- down to a hatred of everyone who did not conform to their bizarre brand of Christianity. As is hinted at in the news article cited earlier, this ran so deep that even the Phelps family became divided, as those who turned their back on the WBC would be ignored, shunned, treated as Black Sheep etc.
In some sense the WBC could be thought of as "Jehovah's Witnesses to the max"... it is, anyway, about far, far more than their anti-LGBT stance that catapaulted them into the news. Their pickets of military funerals, even the funerals of children who were victims of gun crime, was probably far more despicable than the tiresome "God hates fags" slogan in their banners.
Let him die ignored and uncared for, disappearing silently out of this world into the nothingness that awaits him. It would be a far, far more appropriate response than any picketing. Taking this event and turning it into some sort of internal argument about "you don't say this about Africa" seems to miss the point spectacularly.
Phelps' preaching was all about hate, and division, and anger. Meeting it with unity and respect is the response we should be aiming for.
In some sense the WBC could be thought of as "Jehovah's Witnesses to the max"... it is, anyway, about far, far more than their anti-LGBT stance that catapaulted them into the news. Their pickets of military funerals, even the funerals of children who were victims of gun crime, was probably far more despicable than the tiresome "God hates fags" slogan in their banners.
Let him die ignored and uncared for, disappearing silently out of this world into the nothingness that awaits him. It would be a far, far more appropriate response than any picketing. Taking this event and turning it into some sort of internal argument about "you don't say this about Africa" seems to miss the point spectacularly.
Phelps' preaching was all about hate, and division, and anger. Meeting it with unity and respect is the response we should be aiming for.
aog now seems to be inventing assumptions and false memories on behalf of mysterious 'others' on AB
I had heard of the WBC but didn't associate them with attacks on Gays.
My recollection of the News reports and documentaries was that they picketed and disrupted the funerals of any servicemen because they believed their death was God's punishment for the USA/Army relaxing rules on homosexuality
I had heard of the WBC but didn't associate them with attacks on Gays.
My recollection of the News reports and documentaries was that they picketed and disrupted the funerals of any servicemen because they believed their death was God's punishment for the USA/Army relaxing rules on homosexuality
I'm well aware of Phelps and the WBC. The world will be a better place without him.
Zeuhl, this is worth a look.
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Zeuhl, this is worth a look.
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