Should This Guy Be Working Again?

[ToraToraTora]

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-birmingham-27039627
I'm not sure myself, clearly he's a talented surgeon and his services are needed but his "prank" was a bit out of order.

[ummmm]

Yes, apparently he's a skilled surgeon so it's a complete waste keeping him out of his profession.

If it could have potentially damaged the liver then I'd understand, but apparently it doesn't..."Liver surgeons use an argon beam to stop livers bleeding, but can also use it to burn the surface of the liver to sketch out the area of an operation."

[youngmafbog]

Yes, absolutely. We do not want to waste talent like this.

Full disciplinary but not sacking, that would be biting nose off to spite face.

[ToraToraTora]

ok you've convinced me! I expect though there will at some point be a tirade from "disgusted of Tunbridge Wells" along soon!

[Sqad]

To my mind this is not a big deal as, on reflection we have all done things that we later regret.
No harm has been done and this could have been death with " internally"with perhaps a " slight tap on the wrist"

Of course he should continue working

[Sqad]

dealt ^^^^^

[ludwig]

// this could have been dealt with " internally"with perhaps a " slight tap on the wrist" //

That's exactly how it is being dealt with.

[2sp_]

Of course he should be back at work. He caused no harm to the patient. Yes, it may have been a bit silly of him, but if such a talented surgeon had saved my life then he/she could carve their initials on my backside and I wouldn't complain.

He really should have just received a slap on the wrist and this matter should never have come to the public eye.

[Sqad]

Ludwig......I wouldn't call the national media.........internal.

[pixie373]

Lol sqad. Yes, i really wish i could stop carving my initials into people! He sounds exceptionally arrogant. Huge fine and let him get on with it.

[Canary42]

A difficult one to call. His "prank" illustrates a very arrogant/callous attitude to his patients and a degree of irresponsibility unwelcome in a senior surgeon.

On the other hand you don't want to cut off the nose to spite the face, so some appropriate disciplinary action is required not involving sacking.

[redman41]

Very much a 'Yes'
My OH knows him well and he's one of the best Surgeons around.

[ludwig]

// Ludwig......I wouldn't call the national media.........internal. //

He's the subject of an internal investigation and disciplinary hearing. The media hears about things and reports them.

[ludwig]

To answer the question, yes he should be working again. Really creepy thing to do though. Tattooing your initials inside someone's body without their knowledge - really creepy. Hopefully the attention has made him realise that.

[woofgang]

I do wonder what was going on in his head when he put his initials on patients' livers more than once? Also what else he might decide to do? or, for that matter, has already done which hasn't come to light?

[Bazile]

So how did it come to light - was he grassed on by one of the surgical team in the theatre ?

[237SJ]

I agree with ludwig and woofgang. A very arrogant and creepy thing to do. I hope he sees the error of his ways. He`s lucky that the cost of his training probably makes it worthwhile keeping him employed because if this was a hapless supermarket employee defacing the baked bean tins they would be sacked. One rule for one..

[WELSHYORKIE]

TTT - Redman's OH will know him well - they worked at the same hospital.
He was on call during my late wife's stay in the Critical Care Unit awaiting a transplant - of course he should be back at work

[WELSHYORKIE]

237SJ - we are talking about a highly skilled surgeon whose job is to preserve life here not some guy filling supermarket shelves with baked beans, who has very little skill.

[pixie373]

Was it sqad who did it? Did the words say "no big deal"? :-)

[Baldric]

Hopefully his prank was a one-off, but as it displays a tremendous arrogance I doubt it, but it would be a shame to lose his talents