Female Football Fans Found Guilty Of Ripping Up The Koran.

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2618005/Two-female-football-fans-ripped-pages-Koran-throwing-air-like-confetti-chanting-racist-songs-Muslims.html

Since there are many on AnswerBank who admit to being none believers in religion ie Atheists etc, can they now state whether or not these two women should have been prosecuted for ripping up a religious book?

[royfromaus]

Female Football Fans Found Guilty Of Ripping Up The Koran.


Appalling behaviour by these women... I mean for gods sake where was the shaven head and the England flag?

[sp1814]

AOG

Do you think these women should or should not have been prosecuted.

[anotheoldgit]

sp1814

/// Do you think these women should or should not have been prosecuted. ///

Ask your mate Gromit, he seems to think I support them, and we all know he is always right.

'sarcastic comment' before any think that I do.

[sp1814]

AOG

I'd rather hear what you think.

Should the have been prosecuted?

[Khandro]

naomi; //Ah, and there's me forgetting that whilst we can think what we like about most things, we have to respect religion. Silly me//
It isn't necessarily about respecting religions, it's about respecting the feelings of your fellow man (and woman).
Also[previously you said //Religious books don't merit greater respect than any other book// Perhaps you are being purposely provocative (it has been known :), but you can't be seriously saying that the Upanishads, a Caxton Holy Bible or one of those beautiful hand written Korans, deserve no more respect than say a copy of a Jeffrey Archer novel, are you?

[joko]

the books themselves deserve no respect whatsoever
i would happily see every single one of them burnt - and couldnt care less who doesn't like it.

just because an inanimate object is important to one person does not give them the right to expect every other people to give it the same reverence - especially an object that it is actually utterly abhorrent and offensive to many.

the only issue with this situation is that these 2 women were being deliberatory provocative and trying to cause trouble, which in itself deserves some punishment.
but as for the actual issue of the book, the only true crime they committed in ripping it up, is one of littering ...

[Buenchico]

I've organised Bible-burning parties, where any other religious texts that we could get hold of were also thrown into the flames and that has certainly included several dozen copies of the Qur'an. So I've certainly no objection to people ripping it to shreds.

However even I can understand that football clubs won't want one group of supporters making things unpleasant for other supporters.

[douglas9401]

A book at a football match. Aye, right.

[Buenchico]

>>>A book at a football match. Aye, right

Alex Ferguson used to have one. It was called '1001 Ways to Con a Referee'

[Khandro]

Buenchico

//I've organised Bible-burning parties, where any other religious texts that we could get hold of were also thrown into the flames//

Wow!!! I've never heard of such a thing, - how primitive! What was the purpose of that?

[joko]

i love the idea of someone who follows an ancient, out dated and frankly ludicrous religion calling someone else primitive... haha

[Khandro]

joko; ^ So should we take it that you too are in favour of the burning of books which uphold beliefs and ideologies to which you do not personally understand?

[joko]

i understand them all too well unfortunately and yes absolutely - that is the reason i would like to see all religion gone from our lives
anything that is so damaging to people should be stamped out - it has been a scourge

[Khandro]

joko; You say you understand all religion "well", in fact you are arrogant enough to say that you wish to set yourself up as an arbiter of what others should study and practise.
I suggest you know very little about theology, and that your opinions come on the cheap.

[joko]

haha, yeah right...

I didn't say, or imply, any such thing, and you know it - but good try ...

And as for your attempts to attack me, rather than the point I have made, well keep going ... it doesnt matter.

I have said what i said and i stand by it.

[Khandro]

joko; When you stated, " yes absolutely" above, you were concurring with what I said 23:35.
Perhaps you would care to you clarify your position; do you, or do you not, believe that all religious texts -whether you understand them or not- should be "thrown into the flames"?

[joko]

khandro - ive said it a few times now - not sure what bit of it you do not understand

yes i think ALL religious texts should be burnt. I am against religion in EVERY way. I understand enough about it to have come to that conclusion.


at no point was i "arrogant enough to say that you wish to set yourself up as an arbiter of what others should study and practise"

i have said what I would like to happen.

[andy-hughes]

Aside from the perceived deliberate provocation in the act, it is worth bearing in mind that to Muslims, the Koran is a sacred object and this behaviour is seen as serious disrespect of their faith - which was probably the inention.

The intelligence levels of the defendents are shown in their attempted defence - I didn't know what it was, so i tore it up. Yeah, right!

As a public order offence, which this was, i think they were sentenced appropriately - my atheism is not an issue with that view.

[Khandro]

joko; I have over many years built up a collection of books dealing with all aspects of religion ( everything from Atheism to Zoroastrianism:-). I haven't counted, but I would guess I might have well over 50 volumes. From where I am sitting now, I look up at one shelf and can see a book called, 'Psycho-cosmic Symbolism of the Buddhist Stupa.' by Lama Anagarika Govinda.
Not only am I sure you haven't read it, you wouldn't want to read it, and quite honestly without more knowledge you wouldn't understand it anyway. Yet along with all my other books you say how you would like to see them burnt, thereby preventing anyone else from reading them. If that isn't acting as an arbiter of what others can read and study and a demonstration of supreme arrogance, I wonder what is?

[piggynose]

they should throw the book at the them, question is, which one?