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Yes, I do. The taxman is quick to take but very slow to return anything taken in error.
08:08 Fri 09th May 2014
I understand that this facility already exists in regards to the CSA and payday lending companies. As long as checks and balances are in place to make sure that any mistakes are kept to a minimum, I can't really see much wrong with this new move. If you and I pay our taxes, so should everybody else.
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this isn't about whether you and i pay tax, and this will surely apply to many, they already mess up big time over people's tax, owe money to the individual or demand money when there is nothing to pay, i received
6 different tax codes over a period of three months, none of which appear to be correct. On phoning the tax office the bloke told me they have sent millions of these letters all incorrect. some computer malfunction, blip
so what's to stop this from happening to you or i, taking money from my account which i don't owe, that's a terrible thought
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from the link


It admits that more than five million people are charged the wrong amount through the Pay as You Earn system because they are allocated the wrong tax code.

In 2007, officials lost discs containing the personal data and bank details of 25 million families claiming child benefit.
Yes, I do. The taxman is quick to take but very slow to return anything taken in error.
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its a nightmare scenario, given powers to take money you don't owe, bloody cheek
I certainly find it disturbing, HMRC are not known for dealing with mistakes very well.
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no they don't and the idea they can take money from you without a court order is more than disturbing.
There is no way that the MWSD's should have this power. They should go through a court then the court should seize goods or monies to pay for it.

Mickey, payday lending companies have this power? Really? Why would they have it and Banks or Building societies dont?

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it shouldn't be legal to do this and lets hope the government puts a stop on it.
Unfortunately it is the Government wanting to do it. Part of Osbornes last budget I believe.

I principle I see where they are coming from, but I fail to see why the courts cannot be used. If the Courts are failing the country then it is they that should be controlled, not unfeckled access to Joe Bloggs current account by some civil servant.
"its a nightmare scenario, given powers to take money you don't owe, bloody cheek"

You've got the cart before the horse emmie. I know history would suggest otherwise but like any other stautory body with the power to sanction citizens, HMRC need the chance to prove that they won't abuse their position and if it goes wrong that they'll sort it out quickly.
On your point about that government putting a stop to it, good luck with that.
Does the Chancellor have to give permission for this?
its not designed to rob unsuspecting innocents. its a final sanction against serial ***-takers who've ignored several warnings.
Yes, but what is wrong with the Courts to achieve this?

It's a debt, would you be happy if debt collectors from anyone had access to your account?
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they will be given carte blanche, sorry read the links, and listen to the news
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as i have pointed out they make millions of mistakes and rarely do they apologise, lose data, millions the last time, so what makes anyone think they won't cock it up when taking money out of someone's account,
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also from the Telegraph

A 64-year-old pensioner who faced a shock £10,000 tax bill because of blunders made by HM Revenue & Customs has won a belated refund following the intervention of The Telegraph.

The case, published today on telegraph.co.uk/money, is a major victory for our consumer champion, Jessica Gorst-Williams, and highlights the appalling treatment of victims of the taxman’s own errors – and its increasingly stringent refusal to stick to its own rule book.

Every week, dozens of people enter disputes with HMRC over surprise bills arising from paperwork errors that were out of their control. Often these relate to tax that should have been automatically deducted from their salary or pension.

Typically, a mistake on their tax code meant the underpayment passed under the radar at the Revenue, with the taxpayer none the wiser. Millions of these complex codes are sent out at this time of year.

Errors can creep into the codes, which apply to the Pay As You Earn (PAYE) system of automatic taxation, when someone has multiple sources of income, such as various pensions, or because of a change in employment circumstances.
It is the mistakes I'd worry about and when they make them, try sorting it out smoothly and with little hassle, rarely works IMO so no it shouldn't be legal for them to just take it regarding tax, let them pursue it as they do now as far as I'm concerned.
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they should go the legal route, via courts, if they want my money for whatever reason, where i have done nothing wrong, they have no right to dip my bank account, if i thought that would happen i would close it forthwith and tell the bank why
and other customers who are concerned should do the same
How Rude.

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