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they have never gone away. i posted something similar a while back, some of these parties, people make the EDL, BNP look like pussycats.
Yes aog, of course they have !

I have been warning about the rise of the Far Right for a long time now. They have the same arguments...just replace the Jews with the immigrants. Same crewcuts, same semi-swastika flags, same recruits from the uneducated and the same violent means of getting their messages across.

We ignored the rise in the 1930's and we appear to be reliving history again now.
I thought I read that Wilders Party in Holland had a terrible day yesterday?

The left and the far right both did well yesterday. Probably a reaction against the largest group in the EU who are conservatives. (Which Dave steangely abandoned 4 years ago in favour of a minority group). The EU conservatives have largely offered austerity and misery and the voters have abandoned them.
perhaps you should do a bit of research, many are not like the stereotype you propose, many will be well to do, well educated people, who don't happen to agree with what is happening in their back yard. And you don't have to be Marine Le Pen either to rally the people. This has never gone away, most in UK are tame compared with many i have come across.
and Germany has its fair share of Nationalists.
Sorry to prick your bubble AOG

// Geert Wilders came fourth in European elections in the Netherlands on Thursday night, confounding predictions that he would lead a populist and far-Right backlash against the European Union across the continent.
Dutch exit polls put the far-Right and anti-Islam leader on 12.2 per cent of the vote, putting him behind all the pro-EU mainstream political parties. //

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/netherlands/10850610/European-election-upset-for-Geert-Wilders-as-Dutch-turn-cold-on-anti-EU-party.html
Emmie / AOG

Nationalism does not always equate to being far right.

The Scotttish Nationalists, Plaid Cymru and Sinn Fein are on that list you linked to. They are socialist parties rather than rightist parties.
AOG

When I think of 'far right', I think of the BNP and EDL in the UK.

And I'm not sure if their brand of politics is more popular now than say, five years ago.

Perhaps UKIP have 'stolen their thunder', not that UKIP have a far right agenda, but it's right wing enough to hooover up some more of the moderate far right demographic?

'moderate far right'?

Only just realised what an oxymoron that is...
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/// The Scotttish Nationalists, Plaid Cymru and Sinn Fein are on that list you linked to. They are socialist parties rather than rightist parties. ///

So are these "National Socialists".

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/05/23/article-2636850-1E1E715A00000578-951_964x613.jpg


Haven't a clue what you are on about AOG.

You think Plaid Cymru are extreme right wing? I suspect you are mis-reading the labels.
what is the opposite of prick ?
as in I wont prick your bubble ?

AOG you missed the opportunity for the headline:
Are far right politics becoming the New Left ?

I still grizzle when Piers Moron left Amerikee, I missed out on
'End of the Piers Show ? ' ho hum.

89 gains but no control of council
Party Politics doesnt really make it locally -
it all depends if they can run the council services.

Oh,
Nationally/ in Europe ? In Romania - they eat babies there dont they ?
There's little point in ranting on about the rise of the far right without asking why it's happening. If people are disgruntled, there has to be a reason and that's what needs to be addressed.
// AoG ! So are these "National Socialists". .... //

yikes - AOG - perhaps you really DO mean - the rfar right is the New Left....have another spponful of sugar in your tea.....

never a truer word.

The difficulty is that no one but yourself would look on Plaid Cymru and Sinn Fein as national socialist so that as ever it is hard to ahve a meaningful conversation.

If comeone says ( such as you ) look at that man in a red car over there, and the correspondent ( auch as G ) says all I can see is a woman on a blue bicycle, - then an observer may conclude that there has been no meaningful interchange at all - [ even tho both sentences make sense ]
Most of Europe has been under the austerity cosh and instead of blaming themselves, it is easier to blame others. The Eurozone blame France and Germany for imposing on them servere budgets that bring unemployment and service cuts. So half of the nationalism votes are really anti-France anti-German feelings.

In the more developed countries of Europe our problems stem from the economic collapse. Our cuts are the result of lax regulation by previous Governments and having to bail out the banks by hendreds of millions of pounds. Immigration as had negligible adverse economical impact on most of us. But when things are not as good as they used to be, blaming immigrants is easy and our politicians do it otherwise we might rightly blame the people who really are responsible - the politicians.
// what is the opposite of prick ?
as in I wont prick your bubble ? //

Inflate.
i totally disagree that immigration has had negligible effects on the country as a whole.
^So do I.
I'm not anti immigration.
I am however anti uncontrolled and excessive-beyond-reason immigration.
// i totally disagree that immigration has had negligible effects on the country as a whole. //

I am pleased for you. I never said it did.

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