Body & Soul1 min ago
Should All Muslim Schools Now Be Closed?
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And don't just say "all other religious schools should be also be closed", since I have not heard of any of the other's headteachers making such remarks.
/// The snap inspection was ordered by the Department for Education after reports that the headteacher had argued during a BBC radio discussion that homosexuality was punishable by death in an "ideal" Islamic state. Several other independent Muslim schools have also had recent snap inspections ordered by the department. ///
Or their libraries containing books on the stoning of women.
/// "Some books in the children's library contain fundamentalist Islamic beliefs (Salafi) or are set firmly within a Saudi Arabian socio-religious context. Some of the views promoted by these books, for example about stoning women, have no place in British society," the report argues. ///
And don't just say "all other religious schools should be also be closed", since I have not heard of any of the other's headteachers making such remarks.
/// The snap inspection was ordered by the Department for Education after reports that the headteacher had argued during a BBC radio discussion that homosexuality was punishable by death in an "ideal" Islamic state. Several other independent Muslim schools have also had recent snap inspections ordered by the department. ///
Or their libraries containing books on the stoning of women.
/// "Some books in the children's library contain fundamentalist Islamic beliefs (Salafi) or are set firmly within a Saudi Arabian socio-religious context. Some of the views promoted by these books, for example about stoning women, have no place in British society," the report argues. ///
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I think it would be best to allow Ofsted to decide on whether a school or an academy should remain open based on its own reports, rather than a blanket closure of all Muslim schools.
It would be like closing down all Catholic children's homes based on the number of children raped in some of them.
I think it would be best to allow Ofsted to decide on whether a school or an academy should remain open based on its own reports, rather than a blanket closure of all Muslim schools.
It would be like closing down all Catholic children's homes based on the number of children raped in some of them.
Perhaps you are right Ron.
/// the Olive Tree primary school in Luton – fails to prepare its pupils "for life in modern Britain, as opposed to life in a Muslim state", and that its library contains books that are "abhorrent to British society" in their depiction of punishments under sharia law. ///
Nothing like getting them started at an early age.
/// the Olive Tree primary school in Luton – fails to prepare its pupils "for life in modern Britain, as opposed to life in a Muslim state", and that its library contains books that are "abhorrent to British society" in their depiction of punishments under sharia law. ///
Nothing like getting them started at an early age.
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I predicted long ago that the only people who would benefit fro Gove's barmy Free Schools would be religious nut jobs (of all demoninations).
Not only are we funding this school, but because it is part of the Conservative's 'Revolution in Education' it is getting more funding than nearby lical authority schools.
This school should be clised immediately along with the rest of these Free Schools and Academies that are run from Gove's bunker in Whirehall.
Not only are we funding this school, but because it is part of the Conservative's 'Revolution in Education' it is getting more funding than nearby lical authority schools.
This school should be clised immediately along with the rest of these Free Schools and Academies that are run from Gove's bunker in Whirehall.
treetops68
The problem with the 'I' word, is...what is it?
Some would argue that indoctrination is religious teaching. I went to a Pentecostal church as a child (partly because the choir was so awesome, it was like having a free R&B show every week).
Technically, what I was being taught was a form of indoctrination.
The problem with the 'I' word, is...what is it?
Some would argue that indoctrination is religious teaching. I went to a Pentecostal church as a child (partly because the choir was so awesome, it was like having a free R&B show every week).
Technically, what I was being taught was a form of indoctrination.
I'm sure keeping a tight reign on them would constitute something like taking away their "human rights", I doubt anything would done to curb them or make them stick to education as we know it. Our authority over most things here is contoured to culture and race issues, daren't upset anyone it seems (only the indigenous peoples IMO).
Close all mosques as well.Another hot bed of brainwashing and indocrination.No Christian schools or places of worship in Saudi so NO Muslim places of worship in the UK.Any one can say their daily prayers at home or work.Conform to the culture,customs etc of your adopted country or get out and go back home.It is a very simple choice.No one forced Muslims to come here so why should we have to stand back and watch them try to quickly overwhelm us with their religion,lawsand customs in our own back yard.
My answers on an AOG thread from 2011.
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// The 'Free' part means free of local authority control. In reality, that means crackpot religions, pushy parents and private companies in it for a profit get to do as they like.
On the whole, a very bad idea. //
// I suspect it will be used by faiths to further their non inclusive teachings. //
// I suspect the main takers of the Free School money will be Christian Schools, closely followed by Jewish and muslim faiths. I do not consider the common denominator will be anti western, but something far worse - anti science. //
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// The 'Free' part means free of local authority control. In reality, that means crackpot religions, pushy parents and private companies in it for a profit get to do as they like.
On the whole, a very bad idea. //
// I suspect it will be used by faiths to further their non inclusive teachings. //
// I suspect the main takers of the Free School money will be Christian Schools, closely followed by Jewish and muslim faiths. I do not consider the common denominator will be anti western, but something far worse - anti science. //
retrocop
Can I ask a serious question at this point. I often see the argument that there are no Christian places of worship in the Middle East.
Do you know where that comes from?
I ask, because of stuff like this from Wikipedia:
The largest Christian group in the Middle East is the originally Egyptian speaking, but now Arabic-speaking Egyptian ethnoreligious community of Copts, who number 6–11 million people, although Coptic sources claim the figure is closer to 12–16 million.
Copts reside in mainly Egypt, with tiny communities in Israel, Cyprus and Jordan.
Arabic-speaking Lebanese Maronites number some 1.1–1.2 million across the Middle East, and often avoid an Arabic identity in favour of a pre-Arab Phoenician-Canaanite heritage. Syriac Christians of various Non-Arab ethnoreligious heritages, number roughly 2 to 3 million. The indigenous Eastern Aramaic speaking Assyrians of Iraq, south eastern Turkey, north western Iran and north eastern Syria have suffered both ethnic and religious persecution over the last few centuries such as the Assyrian Genocide, leading to many fleeing to the west or congregating in areas in the north of Iraq and Syria. In Iraq numbers of indigenous Assyrians has declined to somewhere between 500,000 to 800,000 (from 0.8–1.4 million before 2003 US invasion).
Currently, the largest community of Syriac Christians in the Middle East resides in Syria, numbering 877,000–1,139,000. These are a mix of Neo-Aramaic speaking Assyrians and largely Arabic-speaking Christians (originally speakers of the almost extinct Western Aramaic language) who ethnically identify as Syriacs-Arameans, together with a large community of Armenians.
I''m thinking - where do all these Christians worship?
Are you saying that churches are banned in the Middle East?
Not saying you're wrong...just curious to know where you got that piece of information from.
Can I ask a serious question at this point. I often see the argument that there are no Christian places of worship in the Middle East.
Do you know where that comes from?
I ask, because of stuff like this from Wikipedia:
The largest Christian group in the Middle East is the originally Egyptian speaking, but now Arabic-speaking Egyptian ethnoreligious community of Copts, who number 6–11 million people, although Coptic sources claim the figure is closer to 12–16 million.
Copts reside in mainly Egypt, with tiny communities in Israel, Cyprus and Jordan.
Arabic-speaking Lebanese Maronites number some 1.1–1.2 million across the Middle East, and often avoid an Arabic identity in favour of a pre-Arab Phoenician-Canaanite heritage. Syriac Christians of various Non-Arab ethnoreligious heritages, number roughly 2 to 3 million. The indigenous Eastern Aramaic speaking Assyrians of Iraq, south eastern Turkey, north western Iran and north eastern Syria have suffered both ethnic and religious persecution over the last few centuries such as the Assyrian Genocide, leading to many fleeing to the west or congregating in areas in the north of Iraq and Syria. In Iraq numbers of indigenous Assyrians has declined to somewhere between 500,000 to 800,000 (from 0.8–1.4 million before 2003 US invasion).
Currently, the largest community of Syriac Christians in the Middle East resides in Syria, numbering 877,000–1,139,000. These are a mix of Neo-Aramaic speaking Assyrians and largely Arabic-speaking Christians (originally speakers of the almost extinct Western Aramaic language) who ethnically identify as Syriacs-Arameans, together with a large community of Armenians.
I''m thinking - where do all these Christians worship?
Are you saying that churches are banned in the Middle East?
Not saying you're wrong...just curious to know where you got that piece of information from.
To dunnitall
Could cases like this thread be the simple answer as to why UKIP have not unsurprisingly done well.They, at least ,have had their eyes open to the threat of Muslim domination in this country for ages.It's only a*** lickers like Dave,Clegg and Millipede who kow tow to them for their votes.
Could cases like this thread be the simple answer as to why UKIP have not unsurprisingly done well.They, at least ,have had their eyes open to the threat of Muslim domination in this country for ages.It's only a*** lickers like Dave,Clegg and Millipede who kow tow to them for their votes.
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