Can We Be Sure That This Type Of Thing Is Only A Birmingham Matter?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-27024881

I like the headline though "Extremist 'takeovers' in Birmingham schools" much less offensive than just "Muslim 'takeovers' in Birmingham.

[THECORBYLOON]

ANOTHEOLDGIT, at the height of The Troubles, did you believe that every Irishman and every Ulsterman was a terrorist?

[sandyRoe]

By the same token all humans are potential murderers ^

[anotheoldgit]

pixie373

/// Aog- khandro. He hasn't edited the post - i think that's how he read it. ///

Sorry pixie but I don't understand your post, where has khandro posted on this thread?

[pixie373]

"potential extremists"? Like all humans are potential murderers?

[pixie373]

My apologies! Keyplus' statement of "phobia".

[Zeuhl]

/The same thing applies when anything to do with WW2 is discussed these days, during WW2 we blamed the Germans, now this term is not very often used, much more PC to blame the Nazis. /

In fact aog, i think you'll find that is wrong.

analysis of references in popular media in the 50s and 60s to our WW2 enemies was more likely to be 'Nazis' rather than 'Germans'

These days, it is the reverse.

Of course this coincides with a lot more evidence emerging now of the atrocities committed by regular Wermacht troops rather than just SS Units.

The hypothesis is that in the 50s and 60s it was more comforting and enabling of reconciliation to imagine that the German people had been misled by a minority of evil fanatics.

And that we had been at war with an extremist aberration not the entire German people.

Today, sufficient distance exists to recognise that the rise of Nazism fulfilled deeply held needs of the German people and that the Holocaust and other atrocities such as the killing of civilians in Russia, Greece etc were only possible because of the participation of 'ordinary' Germans.

[pixie373]

Sorry- crossposted, sandy. I wasn't copying you ;-)

[anotheoldgit]

THE CORBYLOON

/// ANOTHEOLDGIT, at the height of The Troubles, did you believe that every Irishman and every Ulsterman was a terrorist? ///

Now come on CORBYLOON play fair, I answered your question, now answer mine.

[sandyRoe]

Great minds thinking alike, Pixie :-)

[pixie373]

:-)

[Zeuhl]

The issue is I think

What do you most have an issue with?

Muslim? or Extremist?

I accept that some schools may be run by Muslims and some by Christians.

I would be unhappy if any school was run by Extremist Christians; or Extremist Muslims.

[THECORBYLOON]

Unlike you, I would use the principal of innocent until proven otherwise.

[naomi24]

Extremist or not, personally, I think the simple fact that these schools are teaching ridiculous science as truth should be enough to close them down.

[Khandro]

pixie373

"Aog- khandro. He hasn't edited the post - i think that's how he read it."

Would you mind explaining this please as I haven't made a contribution to this topic at all as yet.

[THECORBYLOON]

DIVEBUDDY, I think you would agree there were more examples of terrorist incidents on a daily basis in some parts of Ulster than there have ever been in a year or more in Great Britain. There were paramilitaries walking the streets and it would be right for the squaddies to have been on their guard in your example but had the very same thing happened in Aberdeen, it's unlikely they would have had similar thoughts.

[Brenden]

Wait until they start on London that should be a revelation might be a wake up call for all who think they are harmless practices.

[Zeuhl]

/Extremist or not, personally, I think the simple fact that these schools are teaching ridiculous science as truth should be enough to close them down. /

Indeed Naomi

Maybe the danger word should be 'Fundamentalist'

It suggests an unhealthy fixation with ideas from the distant past.

It would be alarming if Fundamentalist Christians or Fundamentalist Muslims were taking over schools because I expect both would have peculiar notions in their science lessons.

In fact, regardless of who 'runs' any school in Britain, the curriculum should be prescribed to a national standard and inspected.