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Should Householders Be Allowed To Tackle Burglars By Using Force

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gordiescotland1 | 13:35 Wed 18th Jun 2014 | News
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What do people feel about this. I am in agreement that people should have the right to defend their property.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/483153/Scots-back-right-to-tackle-home-invaders
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Absolutely.
Yes indeed - I'd break the *** legs..........

Yes, I would certainly 'have a go' at anyone I caught in my home!
Anyone caught on my property who has the express purpose of stealing the things I've worked and paid for would be beaten to within an inch of their life, gaffer taped and placed in the boot of my car, after which they'd be transported to the top of the nearest mountain and dumped.
I say this because the vast majority of local bobbies say they'd do exactly the same.
took the words out my mouth yorkie, they break in,they go out with something broken!!
They can - as long as it is reasonable and proportionate.
What's reasonable though? They could have a weapon.
One thing we should all understand is that the law as it stands is NOT some sort of protection for criminals.
The danger with using force against burglars is that you enter their world of violence and, in their eyes, you become fair game for reprisals. The idea of “I showed ‘em” seems right in principle, but there’s every chance they – or their associates – will in turn “show you” (and other members of your household) far worse.
That's what Bernie and I said, shoota
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The idea of “I showed ‘em” seems right in principle, but there’s every chance they – or their associates – will in turn “show you” (and other members of your household) far worse.
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I'll take that chance, as they took the same chance whilst entering my property illegally. Who's to say they don't have that mindset as they break and enter anyway?
It is reasonable and proportionate when a Court decides so, otherwise you would have stupid people killing their neighbours up and down the land !
They enter property illegally to steal or damage or rape and the law still allows them protection. The concept of them being an outlaw appeals. If they are harmed whilst committing offences they have surrendered their right to protection under the law.
As far as I can tell, no one has mentioned 'kill' yet mikey.
That's a different matter entirely.
As ummmm says: What's reasonable though? They could have a weapon.
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And if we have the right to use physical force, "could have" will almost certainly become "will have".
I realise that beating a man senseless and causing him serious injury, and killing aren't the same thing chilli but as it stands at the moment, you would have to justify that to a court of law, and I am not sure who would seriously
argue with that status quo ?
mikey,
In the scenario I described in my first post it wouldn't even get to a Court of Law.
You leave the scrote on the mountain, then return home and remove all traces of him having been there, all weapons for home use (baseball bat etc) and any trace of gaffer tape.
IF said scrote does decide to involve the law because of his broken leg, one denies all knowledge when the bobby arrives and acts dumb.
"Sorry officer, I have no idea how Billy Burglar came by his injuries, he must have picked on the wrong household, still, must be an occupational hazard for an habitual thief, eh?"

That's how most Police Officers in the canteen said they'd deal with it!
You do mix with some extraordinary people chili...Police Officers ?
Let’s start with basics. In the first 5 comments we have:

I'd break the b*stards legs
I would certainly 'have a go' at anyone
Would be beaten to within an inch of their life
They go out with something broken

So the idea is that we should be allowed to use ‘reasonable force’. OK, let’s imagine we can. Discovering an intruder in the house would be a terrifying experience for many people and, quietly rightly, we would also be very angry. At this point – knowing we are allowed to use force – do we take a few moments to consider exactly what the law will allow us to do? Can we be that rational? Our intruder also knows we can use force and is very likely to be tooled up for that eventuality.
Surely you can see where this is going. The boundary between acceptable/unacceptable force simply doesn’t exist in this heightened state of fear and anger, and those four comments above illustrate that such a boundary would be largely ignored anyway.
Your intruder would be very aware of that.
The law isn't protecting him - it's designed to protect YOU.
Are you joking?

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