Another Barking Mad American With A Gun

[mikey4444]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-28240831

How many more people, including children are going to have to die before America wakes up and does something about gun ownership ?

[ummmm]

Guns just make it quicker.

I don't mean that to sound blase but recently a man in the UK was stabbed over a hundred times.

[lady-janine]

so very sad. think they are a long way from being rational about gun control.

[sandyRoe]

Remember the Sandy Hook shooting. The sacrifice of innocent lives is a price Americans are prepared to pay in order to keep their guns. It will never change.

[mikey4444]

1000's of people die from shooting every year in America, and yet the population stubbornly cling to their guns...I just can't understand it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States

This is lunacy !

[murraymints]

Piers Morgan for president ? He paid the price for trying to get them to see sense....God bless America...

[DrFilth]

mikey they have banned people from owning guns in this country to put a stop to gun crime , has it ?

what next knives and cars ?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0c6O-euUiCM

[DrFilth]

forgot hand grenades
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azQmIzhJep0

[ToraToraTora]

take away the guns please but if people want to kill each other they can find the tools in walmart.

[ToraToraTora]

the problem is, if you outlaw guns the only people with guns are the outlaws! As we have discovered over here. To be fair though gun culture is ingrained in the septics, they ain't ever gonna give em up! (read that last bit with a US accent)

[DrFilth]

http://www.parliament.uk/business/publications/research/briefing-papers/SN04304/knife-crime-statistics

[Hypognosis]

My limited understanding of the US standpoint starts like this:-
1. Many live more than 20 minutes', at police-car speeds, from law enforcement assistance.
2. If you live on a farm, your nearest neighbour is too far away to hear shouting, screams, violence or even gunfire. If trouble comes to your doorstep, you'll need deadly force.
3. If you live close to forested areas, you will eventually find yourself in the 'bear in the backyard' situation (also wolves, moutain lion etc).

Other reasons range from entertainment to paranoid fears of totalitarian government, bordering on sedition but I'd like to avoid expanding on those.

These are views from 'normal citizen' types that I've seen expressed on Facebook threads, which repeat, ad nauseam, every time there's an incident on this scale.

If you can suggest fixes for the above problems - of the scale of their geography, their most dangerous wildlife and the criminal/homicidal element of their society, without resorting to automatic weapons, then you might have solved the problem of mass shootings.

As pointed out above there are still other, worse, ways to be done in.

[Hypognosis]

@Tora

whilst it is a scary thought that it's the outlaws with the guns, it is a convenient shortcut for the police that anyone spotted holding one in a public place where guns are inappropriate must be a criminal and must be dealt with appropriately.
(We'll leave the death-sentence-without-trial routine to the Americans, for now. With the odd exception for Olympic-standard pistol throwers).

On the whole, there are few doorstep incidences of armed robbery occuring here so what Mercans generally fear isn't happening. It's mainly inter-gang violence and there is tacit societal approval of that even if, in reality it's often innocent hangers-on or unconnected bystanders who end up on the receiving end.

[mikey4444]

Dr F...the gun crime in Britain isn't even on the same planet as America !

I realise that some dafter Yanks want to own assault rifles, but the majority of American citizens don't have guns. Why can't the silent majority make their voices heard ?

[DrFilth]

mikey think of the size of the population and how easy they are to buy in some states then compare that to this country were only a criminal can buy one because they are banned

[belrec]

While I agree these cases are particularly hard to take, especially for a culture like ours where we just cannot understand the need for a gun like that, I feel we are always missing something.

We have plenty pf cases of domestic violence and children being hurt by trusted family members over here too its just not often they are shot.

I feel that because of the sensationalist way things are reported in the media, even in so called "sensible" channels that we hear the blaze of outrage but then everything goes quiet and we never find out the back story or what was done by social services etc to mitigate or if they had enough support.

We never find out what really happened, i am not mitigating anything by any means and we all have a choice even supposedly crazed killers but i do feel that often these people are let down by the system more than being the mad psychos they are made out to be in the news.